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    #81
    Originally posted by John Locke View Post
    As a pro he hasn't moved up. We have to remember that he turned pro later than most top fighters, especially the US based ones.
    He was fighting at 165 by the time he was 21 years old; even with the extended amateur career, the fact that he hasn't moved up in a decade is a bit odd (him campaigning 5 pounds below that is another point of contention).

    Beyond that, the whole "he turned pro later than most top fighters" doesn't hold water when you look and see that Errol Spence Jr debuted at the very same age that Golovkin did and, when all things are said and done, Spence will likely end up winning titles at 147, 154, and 160 by the time he gets to his 30's (like some other people, I believe that Spence is "The Truth").

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      #82
      Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
      He was fighting at 165 by the time he was 21 years old; even with the extended amateur career, the fact that he hasn't moved up in a decade is a bit odd (him campaigning 5 pounds below that is another point of contention).
      When was the last time Ward and Froch moved up a weight class again?

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        #83
        Golovkin has moved up a lot. He was only 7 lbs. 4 ozs. at birth.

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          #84
          Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
          Not at the start of his amateur career.

          I think the point OP is trying to make is that GGG moved up in weight similar in age to other guys like Mayweather & Cotto.

          For example:

          -When Maweather was 19 he was fighting at 130 pounds.
          -When Golovkin was 19 years old he was fighting 141 pounds.

          -When Golovkin was 21 years old he was fighting at 152 pounds.
          -When Mayweather was 21 years old he was fighting at 135 pounds.

          Over the years, Mayweather has gone up 17 pounds. Similarly, Golovkin has moved up 19 pounds in the same time frame. The difference of course is Floyd was a pro while Golovkin didn't turn pro until he was 23 or 24.

          We can throw Andre Ward in for comparison:

          -When Andre Ward was 20 years old, he was fighting at 178 pounds.
          -When Andre Ward was 29 years old, he was fighting at 168 pounds.
          -When Andre Ward was 31 years old, he was fighting at 172 pounds.
          Ward fought at 178, weighing 170-172; Ward was supposed to have fought at 165 when he was 20, but USA Boxing tried to parlay their top two middleweights (and basically the top two boxers on the team) into two medal opportunities.

          {note: Andre Ward at the age of 20-21, fought 7 of his first 10 fights at 160 pounds +1, before going up to 168, only fighting at 172 because of the extended layoff}

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            #85
            Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
            Golovkin has moved up a lot. He was only 7 lbs. 4 ozs. at birth.

            Dude, from Fetus 'til Middleweight, Golovkin has pretty much gone up 157lbs. He moved up the same amount of pounds Floyd and Pac did from when they were also fetuses. Don't get me started on GGG's Embryo stages.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
              Golovkin has moved up a lot. He was only 7 lbs. 4 ozs. at birth.

              He was just a little ***** 9 months before that.
              How do you explain that sudden gain in weight? lol
              Get Paul Malignaggi on the phone

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                #87


                Opening Post, mentions Floyd:

                Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                I've seen a lot of people question why Golovkin doesn't/hasn't moved up in weight so far in his career, without realising he fought at junior welterweight (141) and welterweight (152) at the start of his amateur career, so he has moved up in weight. Not as much as the likes of Pac and Floyd, but he has moved up almost 20 pounds since he started boxing.
                Questions why one would reply with a Floyd mention in their post to his opening post:

                Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                Did you even read my post? I don't know what this thread has to do with Floyd or why you're even mentioning him. I already said Golovkin hasn't moved up as much as Pac or Floyd.

                You're blinded by agenda and have completely missed my point. I didn't say he shouldn't move up.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Ward fought at 178, weighing 170-172; Ward was supposed to have fought at 165 when he was 20, but USA Boxing tried to parlay their top two middleweights (and basically the top two boxers on the team) into two medal opportunities.

                  {note: Andre Ward at the age of 20-21, fought 7 of his first 10 fights at 160 pounds +1, before going up to 168, only fighting at 172 because of the extended layoff}
                  People interested by the sport should know all that by now.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                    Typical ******ed response from you Larry. Your ******ity can drive a guy insane. I've lost a good number of brain cells reading some of your comments on here.

                    The point I'm making is Golovkin has moved up in weight, contrary to popular opinion. He turned pro later than a lot of top fighters, so people seem to be ignoring his move up in weight in the amateurs.

                    Bradley fought at 152 in the amateurs and is known to walk around very heavy btw.
                    Nobody considers amateur weights when talking about how much a fighter has moved up. GGG is a middleweight. Period.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by rajaomair View Post
                      GGG=170 vs Monroe/Murray

                      Ward=185-190 vs Rodríguez/Froch/Abraham

                      Lara/other big LM=170
                      blatant lie, lol. then again, you already knew that.

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