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    #61
    Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
    Man this is a really ****** thread, I mean really ******..Am and pro's are night and day..thats like saying Bradley should be at super middle weight since he fought at 165 in the Amateurs ..Hell Floyd was at 118
    and ward fought at 139 also, everyone is different

    pacquiao moved up from what, 108 to 147, so almost 40 lbs gained from the age of 16

    ward went from 139 to 168/172 from the age of 15 to present, so about 30 lbs

    everybody's body will mature at a different rate

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      #62
      Originally posted by Lthis arryXXX View Post
      Man this is a really ****** thread, I mean really ******..Am and pro's are night and day..thats like saying Bradley should be at super middle weight since he fought at 165 in the Amateurs ..Hell Floyd was at 118
      This 100% ^^^^^^^^

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        #63
        Originally posted by stuff jones View Post
        Or Pacquaio fighting Margarito.
        That's more like Mayweather fighting a shot to **** Martinez at 150.

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          #64
          Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
          If Golovkin had the lineal belt at 168 but campaigned mostly at 160 then yeah.
          OR if Kovalev is willing to go down to 160, he won't even go down to 168.

          If someone is coming to YOUR division then he should be allowed to fight you, common sense people!!, which a lot of people here don't possess.

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            #65
            Originally posted by rajaomair View Post
            He is 32, his body wont grow anymore. Unlike some others e.g Ward who competed and won gold medal at his natural weight of 178 and then moved DOWN to SMW and for 11 years he is sitting at SMW, smh.

            BTW GGG was Light-middle a year b4 Olympics at the Asian games.
            Didn't Ward fight at lhw in the olympics cuz dirrell was at smw?

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              #66
              Comparing amateur weights to pro is ridiculous!
              First off a 165lbs middleweight in the amateurs weighin in the morning or night and fights. His rehydration is minimal. If its a tourney he weighs in proir to each fight so he must maintain his "class weight"!
              GGG is a natural Middeweight NOW!
              He is NOT a big middleweight at all and he rehydrates to 168-72lbs thats his best fighting weight, at 168 he can't rehydrate to 180-82 like Ward or Froch could do because they have size over him.
              Why people can't understand this is crazy! Just because all these midgets at 147 move around doesn't mean every fighter can do it.
              Why isn't Rigo moving to 130-35 he has the talent but he's a peanut next to the guys in that class.

              I think he will go to `168 if he can get all the belts at 160, it seems to be his motivation right now, why not? Theres no bigger fight at 168 anyway!
              Fights with Canelo surpase fighting Ward!! Ward can't draw the fire department at a 8 alarmer! Do you really want to watch Ward try to "spoil" the efforts from GGG. If we knew he would actually box/fight than ok!

              Another thing being the Middleweight Champion of the World has so much more meaning than being a "junior" Lightheavy!! Weighing in at 168 is a lightheavy weight anyways. Those are the guys who need to move up, stop hiding at prelim weights!
              Ray

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                #67
                Originally posted by rajaomair View Post
                HAGLER, HAGLER, HAGLER. An ATG MW, Hmmm did he move up???
                There wasn't a SMW division until after he retired.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by rajaomair View Post
                  OR if Kovalev is willing to go down to 160, he won't even go down to 168.

                  If someone is coming to YOUR division then he should be allowed to fight you, common sense people!!, which a lot of people here don't possess.
                  WW is Mayweathers division which he is still campaigning at now, he moved up out of his comfort zone for a big fight. The same thing people want Golovkin to do.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Barcham View Post
                    That was GGG's heaviest in ring weight. He did not worry about it as Rubio did not make weight and came in over 180.

                    Ward drained Dawson down and then came in heavy himself. That fight was also three years ago and should not be used as any kind of a comparison. The only Ward fight that can be used for any comparison purposes is his most recent one against Smith.
                    Ward didn't drain anybody.

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                      #70
                      Ward fought at 160 when Boone knock him down.

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