Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: No Word From Lara and His Team

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[Beater_of_ass]

He's been willing to move up one weight class. He had a fight with Chavez jr scheduled at 168 last year, attempted to fight Froch at 168 and attempted to fight 6'4 Thomas Oosthuizen at 168 before as well.

Remember, Golovkin turned pro at age 25 he was already fully grown. When Golovkin was 18 years old he was fighting at 140 pounds. When Cotto was 18-20 years old he was fighting at 140 pounds too. Difference is Cotto turned pro, Golovkin remained an amateur. Golovkin moved up to junior middleweight and then middleweight turning pro at 25. Cotto turned pro at 20-21 at 140 and he ended up moving up as he grew (you know how hard it was for him to cut weight) as well, at age 26 he moved up to 147. That's the same time frame has Golovkin. If GGG turned pro when he was 20 he would have started off at welterweight.

I always love this excuse from GGG's fans... Guess what he didn't turn pro when it would have been best for him the. His circumstances of ****ty promoting don't matter. As a professional he's been in one division, the end. I don't need this "well he stayed here and did this and did this." Yes and because he did that he's in a position of being a 32 year old fighter begging and pleading for big names. This all comes directly back to his soft-touch match-making and ****ty promoting.

It is relevant because he's quite obviously one of the biggest names in the entire sport of boxing. He's certainly more popular than GGG and that's what GGG would be gaining from that fight - exposure - just like Hopkins got with Oscar so the point is perfectly valid.

This is all true. You find him beating on bums in the meantime to be acceptable. I don't.

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I always love this excuse from GGG's fans... Guess what he didn't turn pro when it would have been best for him the. His circumstances of ****ty promoting don't matter. As a professional he's been in one division, the end. I don't need this "well he stayed here and did this and did this." Yes and because he did that he's in a position of being a 32 year old fighter begging and pleading for big names. This all comes directly back to his soft-touch match-making and ****ty promoting.

Do you have ADD? You can't even focus and stay on topic one bit. Anytime I reply you just end up talking about something else.

K2 has actually done a really good job with him. He's only been on HBO for a couple years which was right when he signed to K2. In that short amount of time he became one of the bigger names from boxing. Not bad for a guy from Kazakhstan.

His former promoter wasted a lot of his career. Golovkin was chasing Felix Sturm who he was mandatory to, and they both shared the same promoter. They didn't want Sturm to take the risk so they d1cked him around for a long time. Luckily he got out of that mess, signed to K2 and was brought to HBO immediately.

This is all true. You find him beating on bums in the meantime to be acceptable. I don't.

He's got to fight someone since Cotto won't.

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It's crazy how GGG become the most divisive on this site and the thing is , it's not even about not liking or cheering for him it's one side wanting him to finally step up and challenge himself ( That's where I fall in ) and one side thinking it ok what he's doing because and believing he can't get notable names because he's feared and every other boxer views him as Boogie man and no one will step in the ring ( But can still fight no hopers at least 3-4 times a year )

Exactly. I laugh at people that get defensive because fans speak out about wanting to see him fight better opposition. It's like they don't want him to achieve greatness.

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[SlySlickSmooth]

I laugh when people think Golovkin's fans think he can't beat so-and-so.

I think most GGG fans are extremely confident in their guy but we can't do anything about the politics so opposing fans somehow place those politics in our hands as if we can do anything about it. Golovkin wants the champions in the weight class and those guys don't want to fight Golovkin so he's been tearing through the top 10-15.

Then they ask for Golovkin to move up in weight for challenges, he doesn't HAVE to. He can still solidify his legacy as one of the few lineal Middleweight Champions ever. There's been less than 15 fighters in history (I believe) who have belts in at least three weight class who started their careers at least at Light Middleweight.

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Although it'd be a few years late, Donaire vs. Mares would once again become an actual possibility.



The onus is on those who have ultimate control (HBO/Haymon). I think the best way to tackle the situation would be to exchange match-ups: GGG fights Jacobs on PBC, while Lemieux faces Quillin on HBO. The other issue would be getting TR/GBP on-board. If every promoter is with it, then we can finally get all of the most sensible match-ups.

Great Idea , There nothing I'd love more than open communication and fight making between both side sh.it to some extent it just somewhat kind of happened with May/Pac even if they threw together 1 or 2 PPVs a year between Haymon / HBO fighters I'd be down.

Because HBO wants their fighters fighting on HBO, obviously. Why would a network want its stars fighting on another network? HBO wants to be known as the best place to watch boxing.

Obviously HBO want exclusive contracts , what I meant is the teams behind the particular fighters ( K2, Main Events ) why would they sign exclusives. I would expect GB because Haymon literally just ****d Oscars company with no lube.

[Beater_of_ass]

Do you have ADD? You can't even focus and stay on topic one bit. Anytime I reply you just end up talking about something else.

K2 has actually done a really good job with him. He's only been on HBO for a couple years which was right when he signed to K2. In that short amount of time he became one of the bigger names from boxing. Not bad for a guy from Kazakhstan.

His former promoter wasted a lot of his career. Golovkin was chasing Felix Sturm who he was mandatory to, and they both shared the same promoter. They didn't want Sturm to take the risk so they d1cked him around for a long time. Luckily he got out of that mess, signed to K2 and was brought to HBO immediately.

How am I talking about something else? I'm talking pro-boxing and you bring up his amateur career but say I'm talking about something else. I also find it funny you say that his former promoter wasted time chasing Sturm and yet K2 has him chasing Cotto and Canelo, ****ing L O L.

He's got to fight someone since Cotto won't.

And like Cotto is he taking his time and waiting for people to come to him. Everytime someone is brought up it's "make an offer." How about GGG make an offer? His team sits and waits for a big fight, while looking for smaller fighters for fame and glory which I understand, that's what all fighthers want. I don't want to hear how hard it is to get a fight while you sit on your hands and wait and the only offers you initiate are to the Willie Monroe's of the world.

I was fine with Murray and Geale those were solid fights, but when Cotto put Geale on his ass in the same amount of time on top of GGG saying he let's guys hit him... His stock had to fall and it did. I don't buy that excuse of letting himself get hit on purpose for entertainment and I don't buy the "I can't a fight excuse" while he sits on his hands. It didn't happen with Froch, yet another scenario where GGG can't get a fight which ALWAYS happens to him. Unluckiest man in the world. If he stays at 160 and fights stumblebums again, he'll get **** for it and rightfully deserved.

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How am I talking about something else? I'm talking pro-boxing and you bring up his amateur career but say I'm talking about something else. I also find it funny you say that his former promoter wasted time chasing Sturm and yet K2 has him chasing Cotto and Canelo, ****ing L O L.



And like Cotto is he taking his time and waiting for people to come to him. Everytime someone is brought up it's "make an offer." How about GGG make an offer? His team sits and waits for a big fight, while looking for smaller fighters for fame and glory which I understand, that's what all fighthers want. I don't want to hear how hard it is to get a fight while you sit on your hands and wait and the only offers you initiate are to the Willie Monroe's of the world.

I was fine with Murray and Geale those were solid fights, but when Cotto put Geale on his ass in the same amount of time on top of GGG saying he let's guys hit him... His stock had to fall and it did. I don't buy that excuse of letting himself get hit on purpose for entertainment and I don't buy the "I can't a fight excuse" while he sits on his hands. It didn't happen with Froch, yet another scenario where GGG can't get a fight which ALWAYS happens to him. Unluckiest man in the world. If he stays at 160 and fights stumblebums again, he'll get **** for it and rightfully deserved.

You seem to blame Ggg for Froch falling through. He offered to go up to 168, fight in the UK, how many guys of his stature would do that? What more coukd he offer, to fight for free? Gtfo

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Don't you think most of the onus should fall on HBO fighters , PBC would get HBO fighters more exposure and more $ , why wouldn't K2, Main Events, TR send some fighters for 1 fight over if the possibility ever presented itself.

Lara's fight on PBC got one third the ratings of Golovkin's last fight on HBO. Can you explain to me how that is MORE exposure? Haymon is not about to offer top money to fighters he does not control and does not get of piece of their purse to appear on PBC.

People really have no clue about this shit, do they? Haymon is not going to allow his fighters to fight anywhere but PBC or Showtime and he is not going to invite HBO contracted fighters to appear on PBC. It's not difficult to understand. You want to watch Big **** Theory? Well you tune in to CBS and CBS are not about to allow NBC or ABC to have the actors from their number one program appear on an ABC or NBC show to boost their ratings.