Comments Thread For: Laila Ali on Mayweather: TBE Takes More Than an '0'

[Ham Porter]

Floyd Mayweather vs Antonio Margarito in 2006, 2007 or 2008 would've generated at least 50 million dollars, take Arum out of the equation and let the fighters promote themselves, they would walk away with the whole purse, Floyd would've probably made 30 and Margarito would've made 20. Cotto vs Margarito made 500000 buys, a fight against Mayweather especially after Mayweather beat Dela Hoya would've generated way more than that.

Mayweather only made $20 million for the De La Hoya fight, the then richest fight in history - and that was on the basis of the record smashing ppv numbers. The notion that Margarito was ever in a position to make that much money for one fight is ******, wrong & ******ed.

Like I said: log off, Kraut.

My point is if Ali was fighting now in 2015 with the same exact skill sets, he would not be anything special. He would get trashed for his big mouth and clinching. Thing is, people just have a love affair with ANYTHING that happened long ago. because the footage is black and white , they MUST be better fighters than we have today. This is BS.

If Ali was fighting now, you'd be sucking his d*ck instead of that effeminate closet **** that you love so much right now.

[jdp28tx]

Uneducated comment, you probably started watching Floyd Mayweather after his fight with Dela Hoya, go watch his post fight interviews before that, listen to how many great fighter this guy called out and they straight up neglected him and didn't even mention him, Shane Mosley was being called out since 1999, but the fight didn***8217;t happen in 1999, when Jack Mosley said the fight should be worth eight figures to his son at a time neither man was making seven figures. It didn***8217;t happen in the first half of the last decade after Mosley surpassed Mayweather***8217;s marketability with two wins over De La Hoya, nor in the second half of that decade when Mosley stood in this same ring after beating Vargas in 2006 and said he needed a vacation. Shane wanted no part of Floyd cuz FLoyd was a high risk low reward type of fight.

Kostya Tszyu was called out on numerous occasions and I'm yet to see any of his interviews where he even mentions a possible fight against Floyd, same with Joel Casamayor and Freitas, Hell he even called out Prince Naseem and he was willing to go down to 128 to fight him and Prince Naseem didn't even mention him. Floyd called out Dela Hoya for like 5 years and he moved up all these weight classes to get that fight and he agreed to all the terms to fight him, yeah Oscar wasn't in his prime but Floyd was coming up in weight and couldn't even make 150, he was outweighed by 15 lbs on fight night, made only 20 out of 150 million and was forced to wear 10 oz. gloves with extra padding.

Margarito was porbably cheating around 2006-2007 where a potential fight was suggested but Margarito was with Arum and Arum had a lot of problems with Floyd at the time, the fight was expected to generate 50+ mio and Arum offered Floyd a lame 8 million, so Floyd bought out his contract and became his own man but couldn't fight Margarito cuz Margarito stayed with Arum, had Margarito done the same the fight would've been made and he would've walked away with 20 million, but instead he stayed with Arum. Cotto was also protected by Arum and Arum himslef admitted that he didn't want Cotto to fight Floyd cuz he was too green.

Pacquiao, don't get me started on that, but I'm gonna tell you this, this is the first time I see someone get glorified for TURNING DOWN drug testing in any sport, also if Manny was this warrior who didn't care about the money, why didn't he accept the deal Floyd made him in 2009, why did he insist on getting 50-50 even though he wasn't making the PPV numbers Floyd was making, why did he extend his contract with Arum in 2012 knowing that he was the reason the fight didn't happen, had he not extended his contract and had he gone on his own we would've seen this fight in 2012 instead of Miguel Cotto, then Pacquiao got KTFO and he had to get back to winning ways first before he fought Floyd, once he had an impressive performance against Algieri the fight got made and he got outclassed by a 38 year old way past his prime, not interested in boxing anymore Floyd Mayweather.

This is the formula that idiots such as yourself use. 1st accuse someone of not knowing anything and not following boxing. 2nd, the response to a certain post has nothing to do with the post or its topic. You for example, focus on nitpicking and subjects not even brought up by the post. As for your original uneducated guess, I have been involved in boxing for 30yrs. 2nd, your response shows you probably failed badly in literature class and debate class. My guess is when u read a story you focus on irrelevant details ,u could not find the plot, or theme of a story. The perfect example of your ignorance is responding to my post and ignoring the plot and theme of it and making up one of your own and using examples that have absolutely nothing to do with the argument made by my post.

The saddest thing about it is that you think you made an excellent argument and pat yourself on the back, but when some1 reads your argument the response is,"what the **** does that have to do with anything?"

[Ahmed_Ismail]

This is the formula that idiots such as yourself use. 1st accuse someone of not knowing anything and not following boxing. 2nd, the response to a certain post has nothing to do with the post or its topic. You for example, focus on nitpicking and subjects not even brought up by the post. As for your original uneducated guess, I have been involved in boxing for 30yrs. 2nd, your response shows you probably failed badly in literature class and debate class. My guess is when u read a story you focus on irrelevant details ,u could not find the plot, or theme of a story. The perfect example of your ignorance is responding to my post and ignoring the plot and theme of it and making up one of your own and using examples that have absoluotely nothing to do with the argument made by my post.

The saddest thing about it is that you think you made an excellent argument and pat yourself on the back, but when some1 reads your argument the response is,"what the **** does that have to do with anything?"

Your comment shows how hurt u were by my comment, so u tried to make up some bs to cover up ur embarrassment. I wrote what I wrote cuz in your post you were hinting at Floyd Mayweather ducking the dangerous fight cuz he didn't wanna lose, and I was trying to enlighten you on why some of these potentially "dangerous" fights didn't happen and I used facts and I can back all of these facts up, u on the other hand are trying so hard to win the debate, I don't care about no debates, I'm telling you facts and that's what you should respond with, FACTS.

This is the only part of your comment that I wanted to reply to and that's what I did, you could still ask what I think about the rest of your post and I can tell you, but apparently this would be too much since you couldn't handle my first post.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Mayweather only made $20 million for the De La Hoya fight, thae then richest fight in history - and that was on the basis of the record smashing ppv numbers. The notion that Margarito was ever in a position to make that much money for one fight is ******, wrong & ******ed.

Like I said: log off kraut.






If Ali was fighting now, you'd be sucking his d*ck instead of that effeminate closet **** that you love so much right now.

First of all if u think u r insulting me by calling me Kraut u have to be delusional, look at my name, I'm NOT German, I'm an African who happens to live in Germany, so next time try to be a bit more creative.

Floyd made 20 out of 150 cuz he was the B side, Oscar was the bigger star and he dictated everything, just like Floyd does now, he always walks away with more than 80% (expect against Pacquiao), but it doesn't really mean that Oscar could've made 150 million fighting someone else. Same with Margarito, people believed he was the guy, so a fight against Floyd would've been big especially after Floyd dissed the Mexicans in his ring entrance and beat their hero Dela Hoya. If you don't believe that this fight wouldn't have been able to generate this kinda money u gotta be out of your mind, Margarito' s managment messed up pretty badly.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Floyd needs to rematch Pac and get a real win over him. Not a highly controversial on so many levels tainted one.

It WAS a real win. It's not like Pacquiao didn't try for the first 7 rounds, just that he gave up when he couldn't breach the defense. Unlike Cotto and Maidana who kept at it but just came up short.

The only "taint" was due to Manny Pacquiao's excuses. Watch the dude throw punches through the 8th round. He does NOT have a rotator cuff injury. Now maybe his wild, often blocked, frequently missed punches triggered the injury and that's why he slowed down. We don't know for sure. Point is, he was effective at first but outclassed.

The only "controversy" is because people bought into the hype that Floyd was going for a knockout. Real boxing fans know full well Floyd Mayweather doesn't do that unless your name is Victor Ortiz and you drop your hands after hugging him.

The fight went exactly as it was supposed to go and if you watch, Manny Pacquiao kept trying to throw the same combo over and over again, and if he couldn't connect with that first lead in punch, he still went through the combo motion but kept missing. He's a one-trick pony, too dependent on the same tactic.

Floyd started out with some aggression but then settled into a defense stance likely because of his hands. His accuracy never fell off. And you really can't explain how Floyd threw more punches than Manny except that Manny didn't have an answer.

People talk about "Floyd Sr even said Jr was acting scared!!" Floyd Sr wanted Jr to go for broke, make a statement, shut everyone up. The problem is that's not how Floyd fights now, and if Roger were working the corner, he'd have told Floyd he's doing just fine as-is, just like Jeff did. Jr acknowledged that Manny has power in his left after getting tagged with it in the 4th and he knew he needed to stay away from it but still lure Manny into a false sense. Which he did, repeatedly.

Manny lost control of the pace of the fight and Floyd stole it. Period. It was as clean a victory as ever possible especially when you compare the fight to Ali/Liston II (a suspect quit after a suspect knockdown) or Ali/Frazier II (a boatload of clinching and dirty tactics to a UD) or Leonard/Duran II (a whole bunch of "running").