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    Originally posted by sleazyfellow View Post
    I also believe maidana won the first fight, he bullied floyd around the ring at will and pressed the fight.

    But floyd is right, they are in vegas. They'll go to compubox numbers and see floyd threw 20 punches and landed 10! 50% right there, while manny will throw double or triple it and land just as much if not more. The only way to beat manny is to get him and he's jumping in or out of one of his flurries, you know, actually fight the guy like Marquez did. Floyd hasn't been the same fighter in a long time, he's less mobile and throws less, but being in vegas is never a sure thing so if this is the typical floyd fight expect it to go to the judges, and expect a floyd victory.
    There's the chance that vegas will turn their back on Floyd just to get a rematch. If this is a floyd win, the chance of rematch is slim. The huge money they will get on this shadows everything what floyd has done to them. Also they know floyd is already an old cow, they will use a 130hp pump to milk him dry before he retires.

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      Originally posted by aihki View Post
      There's the chance that vegas will turn their back on Floyd just to get a rematch. If this is a floyd win, the chance of rematch is slim. The huge money they will get on this shadows everything what floyd has done to them. Also they know floyd is already an old cow, they will use a 130hp pump to milk him dry before he retires.
      what happens if they cheat him on scorecards and he does a Hearns on them and retires then what? It's too many eyes on this fight for anyone to slip up and try and cheat whichever fighter

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        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
        what happens if they cheat him on scorecards and he does a Hearns on them and retires then what? It's too many eyes on this fight for anyone to slip up and try and cheat whichever fighter
        actually that would be a HAGLER


        I'd hate either guy to get robbed

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          Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
          what happens if they cheat him on scorecards and he does a Hearns on them and retires then what? It's too many eyes on this fight for anyone to slip up and try and cheat whichever fighter
          do you think he will just retire the 150million+ rematch? letter M on TMT is money. let's just say he will plan to retire, do you think everyone around him including his relatives will support him? i think not, i will not be surprised if Daddy and Uncle will point a gun on him just to take the rematch considering how much money they will get.

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            Throwing alot MIGHT not work but NOT throwing alot DEFINITELY WONT WORK!

            To have any chance at beating floyd you gotta drown him with volume punches in punches 5-6 punch combos. This is all wayyyy easier said than done of course.

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              Originally posted by mastertech1985 View Post
              landing clean shots wins rounds, not flailing away at the air and landing 1 out of 5 punches


              its like yall are hoping Floyd gets robbed because Manny is just throwing....fighters aren't run like that
              I said it goes both ways, and it's not just Manny that's going to have his punch output decreased. I never said Manny flailing away is gonna win him rounds. Activity, meaning he's gonna land more. If you land 1 effective punch to Manny's 2-3 extra punches, Manny wins the round.

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                Originally posted by Biolink View Post
                I don't agree because the styles are just too different. Trainers say a lot, but the one pitfall will always be that they don't actually have to fight.

                A guy that's not used to throwing a lot of combinations in general like Zab is obviously gonna be extra weary when fighting another sharpshooter. So what use is that advice to him if he has to step outside of his comfort zone and do stuff he never normally does in order to get the win? Manny does not sit there patiently waiting for you to overextend yourself, or leave openings while you punch. He actively forces you to make mistakes and leave openings with his pace, footwork, and aggression.

                Often times they say the guys that will give you the most trouble are guys that do the same things. It's like a mirror where you have to find out who applies that style better. Obviously Manny is eons ahead of Zab in every department, but they don't fight anything alike. Not saying Manny can't win but it won't look at all similar to me as that fight. Manny is not gonna sit around waiting to catch Floyd with a perfect right hook counter. He's gonna be balls to the wall which also leaves Floyd plenty of opportunities to counter which is why that comparison doesn't work for me personally.
                The fight had little to do with Zab not throwing due to Floyd's counters. When Zab thru first, he connected. When Zab thru combinations, he connected. Zab is just an inconsistent fighter. If he was more disciplined and stuck to his game plan, he would have given Floyd a tough FULL 12 rounds.

                Of course Manny and Zab are not the same fighter. I said that already. What I was getting at is what I said above. Zab was able to connect. Manny will do better than Zab and is much more consistent.


                I do not believe that Manny will do as you say, balls to the wall and throw all night long. It will start out as a technical fight. If game plan A is not working then Manny will go to plan B, C, and D .... at one point, you may be right but I expect they will not do that from the get go.

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                  my not work the way you think but reducing your ass to about 20 punches a round will.

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                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    The fight had little to do with Zab not throwing due to Floyd's counters. When Zab thru first, he connected. When Zab thru combinations, he connected. Zab is just an inconsistent fighter. If he was more disciplined and stuck to his game plan, he would have given Floyd a tough FULL 12 rounds.

                    Of course Manny and Zab are not the same fighter. I said that already. What I was getting at is what I said above. Zab was able to connect. Manny will do better than Zab and is much more consistent.


                    I do not believe that Manny will do as you say, balls to the wall and throw all night long. It will start out as a technical fight. If game plan A is not working then Manny will go to plan B, C, and D .... at one point, you may be right but I expect they will not do that from the get go.


                    zab was getting mentally and physically beat down and busted up after round 5 it was slowly becoming a rout


                    Just because a fighter is overall better or greater doesn't mean they are better at everything



                    Judah is better than Manny at countering and timing shots...Judah places his shots and he lands flush.....Also Judah had faster defensive reflexes than Manny.....Judah is/was a natural counter puncher so I just cant say Manny will land more because he throws more


                    Majority of Most of Mayweathers fights he is out thrown by hundreds and outlands his opponents anyway

                    Maidana,Hatton and Jesus Chavez threw the kitchen sink at him and he ****** it up like a champ and adjusted.

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                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      The fight had little to do with Zab not throwing due to Floyd's counters. When Zab thru first, he connected. When Zab thru combinations, he connected. Zab is just an inconsistent fighter. If he was more disciplined and stuck to his game plan, he would have given Floyd a tough FULL 12 rounds.

                      Of course Manny and Zab are not the same fighter. I said that already. What I was getting at is what I said above. Zab was able to connect. Manny will do better than Zab and is much more consistent.


                      I do not believe that Manny will do as you say, balls to the wall and throw all night long. It will start out as a technical fight. If game plan A is not working then Manny will go to plan B, C, and D .... at one point, you may be right but I expect they will not do that from the get go.

                      Manny is tenacious enough to where there will be a point in the fight where we see the best out of both of them.....win or lose.....that's all I want to see out of both guys


                      There will be a point where it wont be about skills, or talent.....it will be about who wants it more


                      In my opinion I think Mayweather has the mental edge....he is undefeated, and deep down inside, he has resentment because of his career other fighters were beloved and received so many accolodes....he feels he never got his just due....he doesn't say it as much as he did before he beat Hatton, but you here it in his recent interviews

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