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    #61
    Could happen...

    Even if it did, the internet would ignore and continue to diss poorly (as is the standard) out of pure jelly. And we would giggle and then bail everybody out. Like we always do. Cause we're good like that.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
      American boxing hasn't gone anywhere. It maybe dead at the amateur level, but America still runs the pro game.

      There are 11 lineal champions in boxing. America has 5 (Ward-SMW, Mayweather-JMW, Mayweather-WW, Garcia-JWW, Crawford-LW). Cuba has 2. No other country has more than 1.

      America has 19 title belts currently. No other country has more than 8.

      It's no contest really.
      Great post. Keep killing 'em with facts.

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        #63
        "At super middleweight, Ward and the Dirrell Bros. are just levels above the rest, pure American dominance, although it's a bit too early to rank Anthony yet."

        No, The brits are out performing americans right now. I would take abraham over at least one of the Dirrells, And then that leaves Ward by himself. Degale and Groves are just as good or better than Anthony. Froch is not retired yet, Stieglets and Abraham would give any American a fight.

        Middlewight is even worse for Americans. We have Quillin, who is a joke in his own right. Americans are performing very poorly in boxing right now. GGG and lemeuix look the top of the division right now.

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          #64
          "America has 19 title belts currently. No other country has more than 8.

          It's no contest really."

          THis is extremely flawed logic. The U.S. only has more fighters with more belts because most of the promotional and cable networks are American and reside in the U.S. Promoting an American boxer is much easier for everyone involved. NOt to mention Danny Garcia is puerto Rican...The Quality of boxing in the U.S. has deteriorated significantly, I see higher quality champions emerging from other countries, particularly easter europe and russia.

          GGG, Kovalev, LOmachenko, Bertebiev, Lemuiex, Lee, Pac, Wlad, Povetkin, Froch, Lara, Groves, Degale, and plenty of Japanese and mexican fighters will probably all have belts if they do not by now.

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            #65
            Americans have more belts because Al Haymon is a crooked ass man.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
              American boxing hasn't gone anywhere. It maybe dead at the amateur level, but America still runs the pro game.

              There are 11 lineal champions in boxing. America has 5 (Ward-SMW, Mayweather-JMW, Mayweather-WW, Garcia-JWW, Crawford-LW). Cuba has 2. No other country has more than 1.

              America has 19 title belts currently. No other country has more than 8.

              It's no contest really.
              EXACTLY! I gave up trying to debate with KIDS who don't know WTF they're talking about. You kill them with FACTS all they do is reply with more BS and start going off topic and trying to drag other things into it and they try to tell you how "Mayweather and Ward don't count"
              Last edited by sicko; 04-11-2015, 02:39 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
                "America has 19 title belts currently. No other country has more than 8.

                It's no contest really."

                THis is extremely flawed logic. The U.S. only has more fighters with more belts because most of the promotional and cable networks are American and reside in the U.S. Promoting an American boxer is much easier for everyone involved. NOt to mention Danny Garcia is puerto Rican...The Quality of boxing in the U.S. has deteriorated significantly, I see higher quality champions emerging from other countries, particularly easter europe and russia.

                GGG, Kovalev, LOmachenko, Bertebiev, Lemuiex, Lee, Pac, Wlad, Povetkin, Froch, Lara, Groves, Degale, and plenty of Japanese and mexican fighters will probably all have belts if they do not by now.
                You can twisted and make excuse all you want but...THE FACT STILL REMAINS!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by $£X View Post
                  Man, Europeans needs to stop their pathetic whining and start producing some proper fighters. I know it must feel annoying...

                  "Ah, it's so nice to have Wladimir as the champ! Oh? Who is that young, tall, athletic and extremely powerful American boxer who makes me fear for Wladimir's safety? Wladimir doesn't have to fight him, Wilder sucks! Wladimir should fight Fury, he looks more dangerous than Wilder!"

                  I'm almost laughing everytime Wladimir mentions Wilder AND Fury. No, Wladimir, just stick to mentioning ONLY Wilder or just admit that you will duck him and choose to fight Fury instead! Fury is your excuse to duck Wilder.
                  Hate to break it to you but Wilder sucks. He's only at where he's at because of favourable matchmaking and being able to fight for a meaningless paper strap against a sick out of shape mediocre Stiverne. He won't even make it to a Wlad fight if Povektin becomes his mando. People are talking about Fury because he is Wlad's #1 contender and he actually has the skills to beat Wlad.
                  Wlad and his team are only talking about Wilder because they know that's an easy early round knockout.

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                    #69
                    American champions are typically paper champions. We saw this with Gar Russel Jr and will see the same tonight with Quillin.

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