PBC Belts are in production

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We shall see. I want PBC to eliminate promotional contracts, eliminate sanctioning bodies and bring boxing under one umbrella like the NFL, NBA and MLB. Maybe pigs will fly before that happens but at least it finally looks like the sport is making a move in the right direction.

You do realize that Haymon will have to cancel every contract he has as an advisor or manager with every fighter, don't you? If not, he is in conflict of interest in one hell of a big way. He cannot start a boxing league and become in effect the boss of all his fighters and be their personal representative at the same time. How will he negotiate contracts? By discussing it with himself in a mirror? Can you imagine Bud Selig while being Commissioner of Baseball, also being in charge of the players' union? Or a team owner being in charge of a players' union in any sport?It simply will not fly.

I understand that fighters are not the brightest individuals on the planet, but even so, eventually one of them will open their eyes and realize that something is very, very wrong with this picture.

I have no idea how some posters actually think this is a good idea. It may end up doing so much damage to the sport that it will take decades to repair, if ever.

[SUBZER0ED]

I do think PBC is good for the sport...YES I DO

We'll see in another year or two just how good. I don't get how people saw Haymon as a big part of boxing's problem before, but now feel that he is the one who will "save" boxing now.

The severe lack of advertising on Saturday's PBC card shows that sponsors aren't buying what Haymon is selling. Beterbiev is an up and comer who is destroying more experienced small-time fighters. Stevenson couldn't KO a SMW in Bika. Will Haymon eventually pair Beterbiev with Stevenson, who failed to fight Kovalev, Hopkins or Pascal? Doubtful.

Haymon's M.O. has been to give his fighters easier fights for nearly the purses they could get in much more compeitive fights. Stevenson vs Bika follows the same formula that we have criticized him for in the past. His desire to create his own belts shows that he wishes to isolate his fighters from the mainstream and become the mainstream himself. Monopolies don't work because they eliminate competition. If Haymon forms a monopoly, how is that good for boxing?

[Mitchell Kane]

Start of the process?

The start of the process of bringing more money to the sanctioning bodies?

Because that's what you said they do.

[The Gambler1981]

The start of the process of bringing more money to the sanctioning bodies?

Because that's what you said they do.

The start of the process of cutting them off from the Dollar faucet.

They will get less for whatever they do than they would have got from the Garcia-Petterson fight. So they are the ones losing in that scenario not Haymon.

Like if you try to sell me something for 100 bucks but I go elsewhere to get it for cheaper and you sell it to the next guy who comes in for 10.

Did you win or lose?

[-PBP-]

You do realize that Haymon will have to cancel every contract he has as an advisor or manager with every fighter, don't you? If not, he is in conflict of interest in one hell of a big way. He cannot start a boxing league and become in effect the boss of all his fighters and be their personal representative at the same time. How will he negotiate contracts? By discussing it with himself in a mirror? Can you imagine Bud Selig while being Commissioner of Baseball, also being in charge of the players' union? Or a team owner being in charge of a players' union in any sport?It simply will not fly.

I understand that fighters are not the brightest individuals on the planet, but even so, eventually one of them will open their eyes and realize that something is very, very wrong with this picture.

I have no idea how some posters actually think this is a good idea. It may end up doing so much damage to the sport that it will take decades to repair, if ever.

No he doesn't. Fighters have their own managers, i.e. Canelo/Reynoso, Maidana/Contursi, Garcia/his dad, Lara/DeCubas, Alexander/Cunningham, Bradley/wife, Rios/Dunkin, etc. etc.

PBC is the entity, the fighters will have their managers to negotiate on their behalf and promoters will compete by bid for the rights to promote an event. This is a perfect structure for boxing.

[Porter's Dad]

How is that achieved by yet another belt awarding organisation? Worse still, an organisation owned by a guy who also promotes and manages fighters.

Some seriously delusional stuff on this thread. Boxing's corrupt practices exist because they're profitable. A guy motivated by profit is not the guy who's going to remove them.

We already see PBC being as full of **** as any other organisation in this sport. Not even mentioning Sergey Kovalev's name to Adonis Stevenson,
calling Deontay Wilder the heavyweight champion of the world.

They're not trying to drag boxing out of the shit. They've dived head first into it and are just looking to become the rulers of the shit pile. The same as every other sanctioning body or promotional organisation started in this sport.

This.

We are headed down a very, very difficult path indeed. I cannot wrap my head around the idea that people think boxing will be able to withstand, and emerge better, from Al Haymon trying to run everyone out of business.

[Fetta]

We'll see in another year or two just how good. I don't get how people saw Haymon as a big part of boxing's problem before, but now feel that he is the one who will "save" boxing now.

The severe lack of advertising on Saturday's PBC card shows that sponsors aren't buying what Haymon is selling. Beterbiev is an up and comer who is destroying more experienced small-time fighters. Stevenson couldn't KO a SMW in Bika. Will Haymon eventually pair Beterbiev with Stevenson, who failed to fight Kovalev, Hopkins or Pascal? Doubtful.

Haymon's M.O. has been to give his fighters easier fights for nearly the purses they could get in much more compeitive fights. Stevenson vs Bika follows the same formula that we have criticized him for in the past. His desire to create his own belts shows that he wishes to isolate his fighters from the mainstream and become the mainstream himself. Monopolies don't work and eliminate competition. If Haymon forms a monopoly, how is that good for boxing?

No advertising bought? Where u hear that? Or are you assuming that?

Ok ill play along. They didnt sell time slots cause those went to introducing PBC fighters that will bring audience. Oh wait that cant be it! It must be no one wants to be part of this. So in yhat case im even happier PBC is here cause if no one wanted to be part that boxing is worse that i thought.

Never critcized Al. I always knew plan was there.

Keep thinking negative and hate sport and ill do opposite

[The Gambler1981]

No he doesn't. Fighters have their own managers, i.e. Canelo/Reynoso, Maidana/Contursi, Garcia/his dad, Lara/DeCubas, Alexander/Cunningham, Bradley/wife, Rios/Dunkin, etc. etc.

PBC is the entity, the fighters will have their managers to negotiate on their behalf and promoters will compete by bid for the rights to promote an event. This is a perfect structure for boxing.

It can work, not that it will or that it will be an easy road but there is a solid idea that is rooted in most American sports.

Has the lack of competing leagues hurt any other sport in the USA?

[-PBP-]

We'll see in another year or two just how good. I don't get how people saw Haymon as a big part of boxing's problem before, but now feel that he is the one who will "save" boxing now.

The severe lack of advertising on Saturday's PBC card shows that sponsors aren't buying what Haymon is selling. Beterbiev is an up and comer who is destroying more experienced small-time fighters. Stevenson couldn't KO a SMW in Bika. Will Haymon eventually pair Beterbiev with Stevenson, who failed to fight Kovalev, Hopkins or Pascal? Doubtful.

Haymon's M.O. has been to give his fighters easier fights for nearly the purses they could get in much more compeitive fights. Stevenson vs Bika follows the same formula that we have criticized him for in the past. His desire to create his own belts shows that he wishes to isolate his fighters from the mainstream and become the mainstream himself. Monopolies don't work because they eliminate competition. If Haymon forms a monopoly, how is that good for boxing?

The mismatches were to stick it up GBP's ass. The catchweights are to stick it up the sanctioning bodies ass. Don't expect this to be the long term business model.

[-PBP-]

It can work, not that it will or that it will be an easy road but there is a solid idea that is rooted in most American sports.

Has the lack of competing leagues hurt any other sport in the USA?

Every professional sport: PGA, NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, NASCAR, etc. operate under this business model. All of them are kicking boxing's ass right now.