PBC Belts are in production

[Mitchell Kane]

They would have got more from that fight than they will from whatever fights they make in their place.

That's exactly the point. The fight is taking place, and they're getting nothing.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It raises questions about whether they would work with other promoters.

If the PBC has a champion, would they be willing to put together a fight where a non-PBC fighter could beat their champion?

Because that would diminish their title/champion.

They are going to freeze out everyone..

Much like vince mcmahon did when he destroyed the wrestling territory system
or how UFC did in MMA..

It will take some years, but eventually they will have ran off all the other promotions and fighters will flock to them..

Mcmahon and dana white knew that once you start co-promoting your only hurting your own brand as people will never look at you as THE TITLE..

By the 2020s Haymon and PBC will be recognized as THE TITLE, much like how UFC and WWE are considered THE TITLE

[Mitchell Kane]

When boxing was originally number 1 to begin with. People still like watching dudes fist fight I know that for a fact, so the situation can really change a lot.

I can kind of feel some of the sentiment to boxing as it is now because it is the only thing like it around, it is like looking into the past. However, a lot of people complain incessantly about boxing and the only way to change those issues is to burn down the rotten structure and start over.

It could end up a vacant lot or a high rise luxury condo, but it won't be the same rotting structure after.

Yeah, but Haymon's trying to burn the building down while there's still people inside.

[The Gambler1981]

That's exactly the point. The fight is taking place, and they're getting nothing.

Because he is trying to force them out, just because they can come up with some scraps to replace what his guys brought to the table.

[Barcham]

You're speculating. You don't know what a typical PBC contract or a Haymon adviser contract looks like. For all you know he could have advised them to not sign any promotional contracts until PBC was formed. Fighters have qualified managers to look out for them on their behalf and if they see a conflict of interest they would not sign up to do this PBC venture.

And I see no reason why boxing can't be operated as a well regulated sports league with a single champion and a formal ranking system.

Look at the current system:

WBC Champion
WBC Interim Champion

WBA Super Champion
WBA Regular Champion
WBC Interim Champion

IBF Champion
IBF Interim CHampion

WBO Champion
WBO Interim Champion

9 belts x 18 divisions = 162 world champions. Give me a ****ing break. And you're happy with this system?

You still fail to understand the point I am making. HAYMON CANNOT HAVE PERSONAL CONTRACTS WITH FIGHTERS IF HE IS ALSO IN CHARGE OF THE PBC!!! What is so difficult to understand about this? Is your skull 10 inches thick or something? It is simple common sense. I do not care if the contract is as an advisor or a manager or a supplier of trans***ual hookers. If he is actively employed by a fighter in any capacity, he cannot also be in charge of the entity they fight for. He cannot look out for the best interests of his clients if that is in opposition to his own best interests as the owner or 'commissioner' of the PBC.

It's not so difficult to understand.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Al Haymon will either fail completly or he will take over boxing. If he makes this work 20 years from now boxing will be all about PBC like WWE is in wrestling and like UFC is in MMA. He will wipe out sanctioning bodys and promoters that refused to work with him will go bankcrupt. He will own every boxing time slot on every major network and whoever fights outside the PBC brand will be consider minor league. What he is doing is incredible but the execution so far has me thinking it wont work.

[-PBP-]

They are going to freeze out everyone..

Much like vince mcmahon did when he destroyed the wrestling territory system
or how UFC did in MMA..

It will take some years, but eventually they will have ran off all the other promotions and fighters will flock to them..

Mcmahon and dana white knew that once you start co-promoting your only hurting your own brand as people will never look at you as THE TITLE..

By the 2020s Haymon and PBC will be recognized as THE TITLE, much like how UFC and WWE are considered THE TITLE

And just to clarify he's only freezing out Top Rank and GBP. His fights are promoted by Dibella, Guson Tutor, Warriors Boxing, etc.

[The Gambler1981]

Yeah, but Haymon's trying to burn the building down while there's still people inside.

Some people need to go~ how they go matters little to me.

[The Gambler1981]

And just to clarify he's only freezing out Top Rank and GBP. His fights are promoted by Dibella, Guson Tutor, Warriors Boxing, etc.

Don't forget Roc Nation in the freezing out section.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Also I expect Mayweather to fight on PBC after his showtime contract is over atleast 1 time. If he is undefeated he will be the one to fight for the PBC belt and make PBC legit.