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Why doesn't PAC's win over Rios get as much as Floyd's over Guerrero's?!?

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    #41
    Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View Post
    Berto Undefeated? Did you miss the Ortiz fight?
    I must have , doesnt matter in the big picture of comparing Guerrero to Rios , Rios is not in the same class as a WW , its not hard to figure out .

    Manny has avoided WWs its obvious .

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      #42
      Rios..? The borderline punch drunk 24 year old that was a safe comeback for paceman..? I mean Guerrero is not much better but cmon .. At least Guerrero is a legit ww and not fighting the same D lvl fighter over and over ..

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        #43
        Originally posted by IboxSouthpaw View Post
        Rios..? The borderline punch drunk 24 year old that was a safe comeback for paceman..? I mean Guerrero is not much better but cmon .. At least Guerrero is a legit ww and not fighting the same D lvl fighter over and over ..
        Rios beats Guerrero. Remember tha Guerrero doesnt have a single top 10 win at ww (or lww), and even his resume below 140 is weak. At welter he goes life and death with noncontenders

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          #44
          One thing i'll say about Rios, he could get out-boxed easily or he could lose in a tough fight, but who besides Pac beat the **** out of Rios like Pac did? Pac lumped him up and was teeing off on Rios, had Rios hesitant to even throw.

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            #45
            Originally posted by John Locke View Post
            lol...

            Chaves is a better fighter than Rios and a lot more skilled, it showed in the fight as well. Chaves was clinching before the 3rd round, he was never hurt in the fight. Chaves won 2 of the first 3 rounds...

            Rios' inside game is very strong, I'm not sure anyone in the top 10 can go toe to toe with him. Chaves' game plan was to box.
            We must have watched two completely different fights. by the third round Chaves was getting overwhelmed on the inside every time Rios was able to make it an inside fight. At first Chaves tried to match fire with fire but after the third round figured he couldn't win a fair fight and started to clinch every time Rios got on the inside.
            Last edited by SilverMiles; 03-10-2015, 07:02 PM.

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              #46
              Make that fight and my money will be on Guerrero

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                #47
                Originally posted by arraamis View Post
                "Rios and Guerrero are pretty much the same level"

                That statement cannot be further from the truth and in all honesty, would only be made by someone trying to alter reality to fit their case.
                That's exactly what it is. It's beyond ******.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                  Mike Alvarado has a win over the current lineal jr welterweight champ, Mauricio Herrera. Alvarado > Berto
                  Since when do jr welterweight wins count in the welterweight division lol? Alvarado over Berto at 147? That's just flat out ignorant and no case can be made for it. Berto has actually beaten ranked fighters at the weight. Alvarado had a fight there against Rios and looked like sh.it. In the other he beaten up by Juan Manuel Marquez. He's done nothing at 147.
                  Last edited by joseph5620; 03-10-2015, 07:07 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hype job View Post
                    After the Guerrero win everyone was calling Floyd TBE and untouchable at WW, but Pac beats a similar level of opponent in Rios after a year off + being KTFO and there's nothing but dismissal of Rios.

                    Let's be honest Rios and Guerrero are pretty much the same level, both got granite chins but are as slow as molasses with limited footspeed (Rios probably has quicker feet).

                    In fact I think Rios is probably better than that overrated Guerrero, although I respect Guerrero.

                    Anyone else remember this shet? Before the fight the Floyd stans tried saying this could be an upset ROFL to make the inevitable win look better, anyone with 2 working eyes could see Guerrero didn't have a chance in hell.



                    Imo the Rios using the same style from his last fight beats any version of the ghost for 12 rds.. any version of Rios in shape can beat the ghost..

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      Not sure whats so funny. Guerrero doesnt have a single tp 10 win at welter, and struggled mightily with noncontenders Kamegai and Aydin. Rios probably beats him h2h

                      Berto was top 10. Aydin.was ranked higher than anybody Rios has beaten at 147. Both were for that matter.
                      Last edited by joseph5620; 03-10-2015, 07:25 PM.

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