Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: It's 80-20 That Mayweather Fight Will Happen

[Sufabru]

Floyd will never fight Pacquiao. Some of you guys think he will. His fans think he will. But the only reason you guys think so is because you guys are still hoping and holding on to the thought of Floyd Mayweather Jr. still having at least one testicle left.

The man is scared of Pacquiao period!

[Scipio2009]

Floyd-Cotto 2 has flop written all over it... Cotto did 350 K ppvs in the states with Sergio Martinez... How many PPVs did Sergio do with Chavez Jr lol?

This idea that Cotto is the 3rd biggest PPV star has always been incorrect.. Floyd-Cotto had Mosley-Canelo on the undercard...

Canelo-Mosley itself would do at least 400K PPV+ Canelo did 350 with nobodies...

Floyd is one..Manny is two... Chavez Jr./Canelo are 3 and 4...you can make an argument for Cotto being 5th biggest star...

Floyd getting 100% of the Revenue for the Cotto fight is less than 60/40 Pac because you're talking about a rematch of a fight that wasn't controversial against the biggest fight in the history of boxing...

With Showtime putting the actual marketing budget behind it, Cotto being seen as giving Mayweather a good fight the first time, the Puerto Rican fanbase, and the "rebirth of Cotto" under Freddie Roach's tutelage, I would argue that flop point. You put a fight like Gonzalez-Mares 2 on the undercard, the notion of a flop becomes even less likely.

Pacquiao getting 20/80 is almost literally 200% more than what Pacquiao can make in any other fight, with no sarcasm.

Top Rank can take the $20m site fee from the Venetian Macau, yet still be looking at maybe $50m in revenue on a Pacquiao fight, to pay all the distributors, cover the cost on the event, pay out the purses, and leave Arum whatever scraps to keep for himself, likely in the red once everyone takes their bit.

Floyd has options; Pacquiao has no real options. The negotiations will reflect that reality, regardless of how you feel about that reality.

[rasdun]

He is not actuall saying that those were the issues (BLOOD TESTING AND ARUM) hes saying that Floyd said they were issue and now they arent so what is your excuse now? THE SPLIT to which Manny says hell take 40% and give Floyd 60% now what lets get it on!!!

I think if you're an impartial observer, you will admit that blood testing was an issue and Bob Arum was an issue. Either way, right now, it seems that neither are an issue.
Arum seems to want the fight more than mayweather does. I could be wrong, but when it doesn't happen, I am curious to hear what Mayweather's new excuse will be

[MisanthropicNY]

You find one thing and continue to carry on with it that's all speculation also U saying that's floyd beat writer basically but he had never done a one on one sit down with the guy just because he from his home town don't make him his personal writer as U stated on a page couple pages back but I will agree more so I've read couple articles bout 2016 fight can definitely get made when sho contract is up but u can pretty much scrap outdoor stadium idea

I just said that Mayo was clearly a pro-Floyd writer..and he's a FIomo like Ben Thompson level and he's already making excuses for when Floyd ducks Pac for Cotto..and he's bringing up the outdoor stadium WHICH IS HIGHLY IRONIC you have to admit...

The fight isn't appealing anymore and that's been the case for 3 years now... so if the happens next year or the year after it won't matter to me... I will have the same interest in the fight as I do now..which is I have no interest in the fight...

I'd rather see Floyd fight Triple G after Cotto..that'd be a fight I'd get excited for... Pac has been KOed, he's slowing down clearly..he's been in wars... Pac would have destroyed May 3-5 years ago... that's when the fight needed to happen..I'd rather see both go in a different direction..

[Tobi.G]

The pressure is on Floyd now.

[SchoolTheseCats]

you're right, but it's also semantics. So long as pac agreed to the demands, it really doesn't matter whether an actual written contract was signed. Like I said above, it's not really how business works in boxing. they'll start the promotion to get that going before even a written contract is signed, as long as the terms are agreed upon. If top rank did not agree to me with his demands, then you're right, it's BS. Otherwise, it's just semantics

I agree with you on what your saying my point was it wasn't a verbal arum was making it seem like contracts was written they signed and awaiting floyds signature which wasn't the case

[rasdun]

With Showtime putting the actual marketing budget behind it, Cotto being seen as giving Mayweather a good fight the first time, the Puerto Rican fanbase, and the "rebirth of Cotto" under Freddie Roach's tutelage, I would argue that flop point. You put a fight like Gonzalez-Mares 2 on the undercard, the notion of a flop becomes even less likely.

Pacquiao getting 20/80 is almost literally 200% more than what Pacquiao can make in any other fight, with no sarcasm.

Top Rank can take the $20m site fee from the Venetian Macau, yet still be looking at maybe $50m in revenue on a Pacquiao fight, to pay all the distributors, cover the cost on the event, pay out the purses, and leave Arum whatever scraps to keep for himself, likely in the red once everyone takes their bit.

Floyd has options; Pacquiao has no real options. The negotiations will reflect that reality, regardless of how you feel about that reality.

Yeah, but mayweather getting 120 is also 200% or more what he'd get for any other fight. You think he'd get more than 60 million for fighting Cotto, no way

[Vasyl’s dad]

Its amazing that the guy who calls himself "Money", (btw, who names themselves anyways? Corny) is avoiding his career highest payday ever.

[TheWinners]

Yes, Bradley beat alexander, peterson by almost shutout, jmm. Alvarezs best wins, trout and Lara could have went either way

what good fighter has Alvarez ever beaten convincingly?

don't get me wrong, I think he is a very good fighter, but to say that Bradley is not in his class is actually quite ridiculous

He's not in his class dude. First of all Canelo is a 154 pounder. He has KO power in both hands. He has a fan base. Enough where he can do his own PPVs. Yeah they won't sell a ton, but Bradley is not on his level in fighting or marketability.

He beat Trout convincingly. Who beat Cotto convincingly. I remember both of those fights like yesterday. Before that Trout was a undefeated and dangerous fighter. The way I seen him do Cotto convinced me enough that this guy was serious. But Canelo clearly beat the guy even though it wasn't a landslide. He still got a clear UD.

there's no doubt, Rios was picked as an opponent for a reason, with Marquez knockout being the fight before. That said, talent wise, there's not a whole heck of a lot that separates Rios from Maidana

Talent wise maybe. But in the eyes of the public there was. Who holds more value to you. A guy who just came off a loss, or a guy who came off a win vs a hyped opponent who was getting Mayweather comparisons? On top of that Maidana had already beat a couple of legit WW's. Rios never even fought at WW until that fight.


Broner had a following and was getting way too much hype. So on that stage the world witnessed an impressive win over the hyped Broner. Regardless of how you view the two fighters, the public view of Maidana is a lot stronger than Rios at that time with him coming off a loss. He didn't have as much popularity as Broner even before the loss.

[MisanthropicNY]

With Showtime putting the actual marketing budget behind it, Cotto being seen as giving Mayweather a good fight the first time, the Puerto Rican fanbase, and the "rebirth of Cotto" under Freddie Roach's tutelage, I would argue that flop point. You put a fight like Gonzalez-Mares 2 on the undercard, the notion of a flop becomes even less likely.

Pacquiao getting 20/80 is almost literally 200% more than what Pacquiao can make in any other fight, with no sarcasm.

Top Rank can take the $20m site fee from the Venetian Macau, yet still be looking at maybe $50m in revenue on a Pacquiao fight, to pay all the distributors, cover the cost on the event, pay out the purses, and leave Arum whatever scraps to keep for himself, likely in the red once everyone takes their bit.

Floyd has options; Pacquiao has no real options. The negotiations will reflect that reality, regardless of how you feel about that reality.

LOL Always selling Floyd fights with expensive undercards and then comparing PPV numbers... you continue to make the typical FIomo mistake of ignoring what Floyd would get for the Cotto fight guaranteed..it'd be 31 mil with no raise... Floyd-Cotto would fight under Mayweather Promotions..so the undercard is going to be awful... the fight has flop written all over it.. Cotto beat a club fighter and and old, inactive coming-off of injury Martinez..before those two fights he lost to Trout... But Floyd doesn't criticize people he's actually going to fight so you won't hear about that.. Floyd only criticizes people he's going to duck...