Ariza: Floyd fighting on May 2, but not vs Pacquiao

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They could probably make a ton of money if they filmed and edited these "negotiations" with the final decision at the end on ppv for $10-$15... It would cost next to nothing to produce and it this point it's probably more interesting than the actual fight would be... Wether they make the fight or not fans can get an idea of what the REAL roadblocks are ... Complete transparency.

It would probably do well if promoted properly (the negotiation ppv) ... And maybe make the proceeds go to the winner of the fight as a bonus.

Well, that's just plain silly.

[AgainstTheRopes]

It just seems that the side refusing to talk has something to hide from the public. If Pac and Arum are insisting that they've agreed to Floyd's demands then we have to assume that's the truth unless Floyd comes out and says differently. If its not true then all Floyd needs to do is state what was offered and if Pac did or did not accept. Instead he's beating around the bush when asked questions pertaining to Pac stating that he accepted all of Floyd's terms.

Mayweather and others have said that negotiations are still ongoing despite Pacquaio's camp insisting all that needs to be done is for Mayweather to sign.

[IMDAZED]

Do you not read? Thats exactly what I said. You fans are the ones claiming Arum is blocking the fight.

Again, thats my whole point, since Moonves is involved Floyd cannot make up his same old nonsense about Arum.

How is accepting every demand making it difficult? Lol. Does Floyd get specific? Not on that. But when he does get specific why the fight is difficult, "Pac not a boss doe...Pac have bad PPV doe..." Yea those are clearly great reasons as to why Arum is making this fight difficult.

Great. So since Moonves is involved and he wouldn't waste his time, that means Mayweather wants the fight. Let's see.

[IMDAZED]

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[Deevel916]

Mayweather and others have said that negotiations are still ongoing despite Pacquaio's camp insisting all that needs to be done is for Mayweather to sign.

When asked he also said that Pac isn't his own boss therefore he's in no position to accept any terms. So does that mean that Pac accepted the terms or no? Was Floyd not satisfied that Pac and Arum said yes to his terms?

[John Barron]

Which is pretty much his own fault, if we're being honest. He basically says all the wrong things every time he opens his mouth.

I believe the backlash this time, will be much worse. Especially if he fights Cotto. People are basically going to dismiss it as, a) he ducked Pacquiao, and b) he's already beaten Cotto.

Considering how close the Pacquiao fight appears/appeared to be this time, I think the backlash will be terrible.

don't get what is keeping floyd or someone that represents him from going into specifics... they need a clear narrative on what goes on during these negotiations because he always says some generic negative things about arum and leaves it at that, it doesn't help his case one bit. arum and pacquiao can say practically anything they like and the media will never challenge them.

[Flash13]

Showtime also has to know this, and they will lose even more money.

I know Showtime can opt out of the floyd contract if they want... if I was them, Id say look Floyd, we're back into a corner here... Either we fight Pacquiao or this is where the train ends.

No, and i'm 90% sure this is correct. SHO has NO opt outs, only floyd has the opts outs.

[AgainstTheRopes]

When asked he also said that Pac isn't his own boss therefore he's in no position to accept any terms. So does that mean that Pac accepted the terms or no? Was Floyd not satisfied that Pac and Arum said yes to his terms?

He's just saying Pacquiao goes with whatever Arum says. Well Pacquiao said as much himself when he's been telling people he's just a boxer and that he lets his promoter (Arum) handle the details.

From LA Times today

"Discussions to make the super-fight are proceeding, with Mayweather and Pacquiao having expressed verbal agreement to a purse split, a drug-testing plan and the MGM Grand in Las Vegas as a venue, while network executives from Showtime and HBO on Tuesday discussed a joint pay-per-view broadcast."


Both sides do have an agreement on some aspects but its not done like Arum/Pac have been saying

[KnockoutKings]

For reference, heres what Ariza said in 2010:




Ariza told me this week that he has genuine, serious doubts that the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout, which was expected to generate in the region of $200 million, will ever come to fruition.

“I really don’t think so. I don’t think it will be anything to do with Manny and Mayweather in the end. I think it will come down to the relations between Bob Arum and Golden Boy. Bob Arum was seriously fed up of the messing for this fight ?and wanted to get it signed,?he said.

“They don’t want to mess around with Mayweather. I think for him it is a case of whether he humbles himself and raises his position walks into Golden Boy’s offices and just signs the papers. There isn’t anything to say about it. If Mayweather wants the fight he is going to have to bite his tongue and go with whatever is stipulated in the contract.?br />
?b>Will Mayweather do that ? I think he won’t. Not once he sees what Manny does against Joshua Clottey. That’s going to instil even more fear into Mayweather.?/i>

[MrRolltide91]

He's just saying Pacquiao goes with whatever Arum says. Well Pacquiao said as much himself when he's been telling people he's just a boxer and that he lets his promoter (Arum) handle the details.

From LA Times today

"Discussions to make the super-fight are proceeding, with Mayweather and Pacquiao having expressed verbal agreement to a purse split, a drug-testing plan and the MGM Grand in Las Vegas as a venue, while network executives from Showtime and HBO on Tuesday discussed a joint pay-per-view broadcast."


Both sides do have an agreement on some aspects but its not done like Arum/Pac have been saying

I read that article and it doesn't say anything about a signed contract