Comments Thread For: Roach Admits Pacquiao Fumble in First Mayweather Talks

[GRUSTLER]

And for the record I had my Roach quote sig'd for a long time now.

[dc3383]

Health comes first in the context of peds. How about the context of 'I'm a rich coward and don't mind being called one'? So are we supposed to analyze and contextualize each of Floyds words when it comes to fighting Pac? WTF do you think Floyd is a philosopher?

No its just you chose not to understand the sarcasm in what he's saying.

[littlemac]

By reading the Pacquiao fans excuses it is pretty safe to say that they know it's a wrap for Manny in regards to blaming it on Floyd. Everything continues to unfold as time goes on even though it has already been there from the beginning. I say one thing. Manny got some loyal dumb ass fans to put their common sense on the line for him.

Can you imagine if Floyd's and Pac's role were reversed Floyd would be getting twice the hate!

[MrRolltide91]

Agreed and thereafter, it's been Floyd's fault

nope manny needed his cut to heal and arum didn't have time for his outdoor stadium

[littlemac]

No its just you chose not to understand the sarcasm in what he's saying.

Exactly. His clearly mocking people who hate him and this people play straight into it

[MrRolltide91]

Roach admitted this at the beginning of 2014 when Manny was gearing up for Bradley 2, this is no NEW news, real fans who follow already knew this nonsense well before Roach even admitted to it.

Everyone knew Manny blamed his Morales loss on the blood testing, but somehow that was an issue until the Rios fight? Now its not an issue, and if I remember correctlt Kevin Iole wrote a whole piece on the 5050 contract that was sent to Top Rank by Schaeffer, GBP, Floyd, etc etc.

You all can call Floyd a ducker for eternity, but the real truth is, Manny and Bob ducked the richest fight in boxing history, multiple times, and they could have had all that dough in 2010......sad, I guess Id rather be ridiculed for not fighting one fighter vs turning down a 5050 split for a fight that would break all PPV records, and stay that way over blood testing.

U talking about this?

[MrRolltide91]

Bruh, I'm not a Pacquiao fan. All u Floyd fans swear anyone who is against Floyd is a Pac fanatic. I know he's mentioned something like this before. And yeah, Pac and co ****ed up the first time around. And Floyd has been acting like a b1tch ever since.

Not really. don't forget 2012.

[SkillspayBills]

I just want to continue to make this point. How can Floyd be afraid of Manny when Floyd did his best to make the fight AFTER PAC BEAT COTTO. You know...the fight where Manny looked like an absolute beast? He wanted him at his peak of peaks.

[latinbrawler316]

F FLO.MO$ F PAC.TARD$ f bob arum f al haymon f mayweather f pacquiao f roach f mayweather sr f top rank f mayweather promotions f hbo f showtime f the past negotiations f the future negotiations just fight!!!!!!!

[MrRolltide91]

Yep! Freddie admits to the first round of negotiations, but I wish he would speak on the second round too:

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment...

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope."

Come again? You won't even talk about it with Pacquiao, I asked very politely.

"My mission is to go over to the Philippines and talk about these four guys," Arum said. "If Manny feels he wants to go in May, he will tell me. I want to make sure Manny's cuts are healed. We won't fall under this kind of pressure. June is much more likely for Manny's fight, not May."

So May was a real possibility yesterday, but now there's no way?

"What if they fought and Manny started bleeding on the first punch?" a clearly flustered Arum said. "I don't know if Manny is available to fight in May. I have no idea. I haven't talked to him; I haven't seen him. Seems to me, June is more likely based on what his plastic surgeon said."

Lol @ that cut excuse