Comments Thread For: Roach Admits Pacquiao Fumble in First Mayweather Talks

[littlemac]

Mayweather stated in his last interview that one of the things that Pacquaio demanded during their first negotiation was that Pacquaio be told him in advance the day and time that the USOC was going to test him.

That is not a demand of a guy who was concerned about being tested too soon before a fight. That is a demand of a guy who is cheating and wants to avoid being caught cheating. This is something that I never see Fat Dan Rafael or any of the other bloggers or the clowns on this site who blame Mayweather for the fight not happening talking about.

That's a good point. If your main concern about testing is testing on the day or day before the fight, Why would your first request be that you want these test to be announce and not random? If your really concern about testing to close to the fight, wouldn't your first request be anytime just not on the day or the day before the fight? Funny that when Floyd offered to be flexable in his only demand, he offered Pac a two week cut off to insure he wouldn't be tested on the day or before the fight. Yet this was still not enough for Manny so he walked away and the Pacfans blame Floyd even thought Floyd tried to be flexible in giving Pac some room when Floyd could had said no cut offs period.

[dc3383]

Very emotionally he discusses how his health comes first and that is sarcasm? Damn man you got some low pickups.

Even tho he sent that guy a signed contract to fight him so try again.

[ADP02]

Mayweather stated in his last interview that one of the things that Pacquaio demanded during their first negotiation was that Pacquaio be told him in advance the day and time that the USOC was going to test him.

That is not a demand of a guy who was concerned about being tested too soon before a fight. That is a demand of a guy who is cheating and wants to avoid being caught cheating. This is something that I never see Fat Dan Rafael or any of the other bloggers or the clowns on this site who blame Mayweather for the fight not happening talking about.

So then you must be su****ious of Floyd.

In the 24/7 episodes, Floyd had the "tester" wait for many hours before being tested. That is an old trick that PED cheats do. Wait it out so that even if you test positive, at least it will be within the accepted ratio.

Also, you must hate on Floyd for saying that he is 100% natural when we hear that he injected himself with hand numbing drugs and what makes it even more incriminating, there is a video of Ellerbe saying that he never did that. What Ellerbe? There are videos of Floyd admitting to that.

There are also those 3 rumored positive tests.

Finally, Floyd says that before the Canelo fight he had his blood removed, centrifuged then re-injected back into his body. Side affects had Floyd wearing sunglasses at an indoor press conference. If you were hiding the name "Floyd", you would be think that we were talking about "Lance Armstrong"


The only thing that I agree but you didn't get is that it was a negotiation. Also, for the testing, some would be known timeframe and some would not.


Finally, why are you not bringing up that Manny did agree but then Floyd had other roadblocks? Why didn't you state that in Floyd's recent Showtime interview that Floyd had roadblocks including a spanking new one? You know, "I will give Manny even less money than what I requested in 2012"

[5.4ever]

I've been following this rivalry since 09 and something many people here seem to forget is this..

Floyd brought up these demands in a period where no one would ask these things..

IT was always perceived as a way for mayweather to make team pacquiao bend to his will...

With time, it has come to light that yes, it's not a bad demand and even during those negotiations pac agreed toward the end...

At the end of the ****ing day, mayweather has always found a new barrier or excuse as to why not make this fight.

Roach is not wording his **** right. Pac would fight a rabid ****ing dog if it meant pleasing his fans and making money, it's well known he was being advised, by God knows who, to not give in into mayweathers demands. Was he dirty or clean, we will never truly know but that one denied demand was NOT the real reason why they haven't fought, the real reason is mayweathers constant bs roadblocks... If you can't see this then you're an idiot....

If you call me out in 9th grade and for some reason the fight doesn't happen, and I call you out in 10th 11th 12th and into college, and you don't face me, whose the real punk????

[Outwest Exp 355]

But Manny be scared of needles doe.

[ADP02]

But Manny be scared of needles doe.

Manny didn't say that himself but Floyd did say this:

"If I don't ask for a larger share, and then what if I lose? He's fine because he's a congressman, but I'm just a boxer" said Floyd Mayweather Jr




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[littlemac]

I've been following this rivalry since 09 and something many people here seem to forget is this..

Floyd brought up these demands in a period where no one would ask these things..
IT was always perceived as a way for mayweather to make team pacquiao bend to his will...


Not really Mike Tyson asked for special consideration of special testing on Holyfield and guess what, nobody considered Tyson's request as a cowardly move or a way to make Hollyfield to bend to his will. Infact Hollyfield responded in the most logical manner of a clean fighter.

" I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt."
-Evander Holifield

With time, it has come to light that yes, it's not a bad demand and even during those negotiations pac agreed toward the end...


Ofcourse its not a bad demand. Only team Manny see testing as some kind of advantage You would think that they would both want it. Manny's team has always said they would agree only to reject testing when it matters. They said they would do it anytime,anywhere and when it was time to sign, they rejected it at the last minute when everything was agreed upon. Infact Floyd even bended on his only demand by giving Manny a graceful cut off just to make the fight, yet Manny rejected it. Then after Manny walked Floyd said he would no longer offer a cut off and a 50/50 split right after manny walked away. Then after Floyd schools Mosley, Manny then comes back asking for the same thing all over again 1/2 year after Floyd said no more cut offs and even split.

At the end of the ****ing day, mayweather has always found a new barrier or excuse as to why not make this fight.


What new barriers. Manny has always been the one to reject the fight and even his own team admit to it and now we still waiting on Bob on May 2nd.

Roach is not wording his **** right. Pac would fight a rabid ****ing dog if it meant pleasing his fans and making money, it's well known he was being advised, by God knows who, to not give in into mayweathers demands. Was he dirty or clean, we will never truly know but that one denied demand was NOT the real reason why they haven't fought, the real reason is mayweathers constant bs roadblocks... If you can't see this then you're an idiot....


If you call me out in 9th grade and for some reason the fight doesn't happen, and I call you out in 10th 11th 12th and into college, and you don't face me, whose the real punk????
This just to ****** to even respond, no offense.

My responses in red. The last part of him being advise or what ever was just too ****** to respond to. No offense.

[littlemac]

But Manny be scared of needles doe.

Manny only scared of the needles used in randomized testing cause apparently, Manny was ok with the needles used in heads up schedule testing dates method and also ok with the needles used for getting inked

[brickcityboxing]

I've been following this rivalry since 09 and something many people here seem to forget is this..

Floyd brought up these demands in a period where no one would ask these things..

IT was always perceived as a way for mayweather to make team pacquiao bend to his will...

With time, it has come to light that yes, it's not a bad demand and even during those negotiations pac agreed toward the end...

At the end of the ****ing day, mayweather has always found a new barrier or excuse as to why not make this fight.

Roach is not wording his **** right. Pac would fight a rabid ****ing dog if it meant pleasing his fans and making money, it's well known he was being advised, by God knows who, to not give in into mayweathers demands. Was he dirty or clean, we will never truly know but that one denied demand was NOT the real reason why they haven't fought, the real reason is mayweathers constant bs roadblocks... If you can't see this then you're an idiot....

If you call me out in 9th grade and for some reason the fight doesn't happen, and I call you out in 10th 11th 12th and into college, and you don't face me, whose the real punk????

I disagree. Ask yourself who are some of the biggest names at 140-154 and then ask yourself if you ever see PAC fighting any of them before he retires. I would say probably not, now one could say it has more to do with most of those guys being signed to Haymon and PAC being signed to Arum but PAC knew the situation before he decided to resign to Arum. You could blame it on Arum or Haymon if you want but at the end of the day PAC is his own man and when he had the opportunity to take control of his career and give the fans the fights they wanted,he blew it. Maybe he knows something we don't and he feels it's safer at Top Rank because there are plenty of young guys who are established with promoters/managers who wouldn't have a problem putting them in with PAC (no shame in losing to PAC), problem is none of them are signed to TR.. Unless we are counting Jessie Vargas now.

[littlemac]

I disagree. Ask yourself who are some of the biggest names at 140-154 and then ask yourself if you ever see PAC fighting any of them before he retires. I would say probably not, now one could say it has more to do with most of those guys being signed to Haymon and PAC being signed to Arum but PAC knew the situation before he decided to resign to Arum. You could blame it on Arum or Haymon if you want but at the end of the day PAC is his own man and when he had the opportunity to take control of his career and give the fans the fights they wanted he blew it. Maybe he knows something we don't and he feels it's safer at Top Rank because there are plenty of young guys who are established with promoters/managers who wouldn't have a problem putting them in with PAC (no shame in losing to PAC), problem is none of them are signed to TR.. Unless we are counting Jessie Vargas now.

Manny is the only fighter in history to not only get blamed, but praised for taking on cherry pick fights, refusing testing, resfusing to demand the top fights, and resigning with the guy who continues to set him up with cherry picks. It's obvious that Manny is resigning with Arum so that Arum can protect his rep from looking like duck from avoiding Floyd. Manny hires Arum exactly for that reason to have Arum take the heat other wise why would Manny need Arum. Manny don't need Arum to get him fights. Manny can get any fight he wants with out having to give Arum or anyone a cut. Manny hires Arum to hide behind from Floyd and for the special match making. There is no other reason why Manny would resign with Bob cause he don't need Bob to get top fights thats for sure!