Howard Foster Jr is The Worst Referee of all Time

[BostonGuy]

Logical?? Or maybe they are human and make mistakes or maybe they are more qualified than yourself to judge that?

We as boxing fans have a right to criticize incompetent refs. Yes, refereeing is prone to human error and is very subjective but when there is a clear trend with British refs ****ing up fights week-in and week-out then there should be an outcry.

[Funky_Monk]

We as boxing fans have a right to criticize incompetent refs. Yes, refereeing is prone to human error and is very subjective but when there is a clear trend with British refs ****ing up fights week-in and week-out then there should be an outcry.

I don't care what nationality the refs are.
As it's been highlighted here, others have let fights go on too long.
It just seems people are quick to criticise when they don't ref themselves.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I don't care what nationality the refs are.
As it's been highlighted here, others have let fights go on too long.
It just seems people are quick to criticise when they don't ref themselves.

"How can ya'll talk about boxing when you aint never boxed befoh? I mean we on a boxing forum n **** so there'd be zero discussion but still. Y'ALL NEVER BOXED BEFOH!"

[BostonGuy]

I don't care what nationality the refs are.
As it's been highlighted here, others have let fights go on too long.
It just seems people are quick to criticise when they don't ref themselves.

That's ridiculous. You can't criticize a ref unless you yourself are one? That's the same logic that boxers use when responding to criticism by fans. Their logic is - you've never laced 'em up so you can't have an informed opinion. That's b.s.

[Funky_Monk]

That's ridiculous. You can't criticize a ref unless you yourself are one? That's the same logic that boxers use when responding to criticism by fans. Their logic is - you've never laced 'em up so you can't have an informed opinion. That's b.s.

I'll tell you why it isn't ridiculous because of you'd ever qualified to ref any sport you'd realise one how hard it's is and two how many misconceptions there are around rules and responsibilities

[#1Assassin]

I'll tell you why it isn't ridiculous because of you'd ever qualified to ref any sport you'd realise one how hard it's is and two how many misconceptions there are around rules and responsibilities

nobody is dis*****g that its hard to be a ref. we are just saying that if its too hard for any given individual to do it at least somewhat competently, they shouldn't do it anymore. just like any other occupation.

being a ref is hard but being a fighter is harder. its a damn shame when someone works his ass off for years only to get screwed by the ref, not receive a fair chance to compete and lose out on their hard earned opportunities to evolve their career and earn a living.

the fans are being robbed too and even the opposing fighter as he loses any credit he would have been due had he won fair and square.

there is no shame in not being good enough to be a referee, there is shame in continuously **** **** up for everyone around you because you are terrible at your job and refuse to either improve or quit. don't take on more than you can handle and allow others to suffer because you are in over your head. its not like these people aren't aware of how people feel about their performances. get the stones to let a fight run its course or get the **** up out the business.

also. how is vic draculich not mentioned? he is terrible. bad eyes, worse decision making and establishes no authority whatsoever even as he is taking points away.

[BostonGuy]

Just watched the KO. Periban looked very unsteady after the knockdown and I'm not sure he would have been able to convince any ref he was OK.

However, it's improper for a ref to waive the fight off before the fighter has even touched the canvas. Foster did not administer the rules properly. You at least give a fighter a chance to prove that he is OK and able to fight on.

Fighters frequently get knocked down by huge punches but are able to get up, get wits about them and fight on. Moreover, how many fighters have we seen get knocked down by big punches, to get off the deck and win the fight? This happens all the time in boxing and it isn't fair to fighters not to give them that chance to get up

[Funky_Monk]

nobody is dis*****g that its hard to be a ref. we are just saying that if its too hard for any given individual to do it at least somewhat competently, they shouldn't do it anymore. just like any other occupation.

being a ref is hard but being a fighter is harder. its a damn shame when someone works his ass off for years only to get screwed by the ref, not receive a fair chance to compete and lose out on their hard earned opportunities to evolve their career and earn a living.

the fans are being robbed too and even the opposing fighter as he loses any credit he would have been due had he won fair and square.


also. how is vic draculich not mentioned? he is terrible. bad eyes, worse decision making and establishes no authority whatsoever even as he is taking points away.

Ok so there are several issues here, why do so few ex pros go into refing?
Perhaps the pool of refs creates a problem in that the board can't appoint others.
Maybe the boards are happy with their performances?

[Funky_Monk]

Just watched the KO. Periban looked very unsteady after the knockdown and I'm not sure he would have been able to convince any ref he was OK.

However, it's improper for a ref to waive the fight off before the fighter has even touched the canvas. Foster did not administer the rules properly. You at least give a fighter a chance to prove that he is OK and able to fight on.

Fighters frequently get knocked down by huge punches but are able to get up, get wits about them and fight on. Moreover, how many fighters have we seen get knocked down by big punches, to get off the deck and win the fight? This happens all the time in boxing and it isn't fair to fighters not to give them that chance to get up

Ok now we can talk about this sensibly.
I don't know but I suspect that % of fighters who come back after heavy knockdowns (where some may have stopped the fight) is very small. They stay in our minds because they are unique.
What do you think?

[M Bison]

Couldn't give a **** about DeGale he robbed the poor sods paying £17 of a good fight, what a total **** he is.