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at Klit fans calling Frazier glass jawed!
Joe Frazier had some of the best conditioning ever.
He could punch for 15 rounds non-stop.
Was supremely conditioned.
Had amazing movement and a killer left hook.
vs Klitschko
Glass Jawed
Stamina issues
Slow hands
slow feet
and beaten up by a golfer
I mean if he was whacked by his 4 iron he'd have an excuse
On top of that he ducked him in a rematch and got his big brother to fight for him
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Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View PostThat feather fist had 27 Ko's out of his 32 wins. He'd only need to tap that jaw once and he'd fall over rolling around the place again.
He only boxed 17 times against what we would legitimately CALL a HW (even though they were still about 30lbs LESS than Klitschko's average opponent).
He lost 4 times, 2ce by vicious KO.
Of the 13 remaining opponents he failed to KO more than half of them.
Featherfist!
Meanwhile, let's actually look at Wlad's resistance.
KO loss 3 times. 2 through gassing, one of them not even legit.
Only 1 loss via way of getting punched out clean in 67 HW fights average opponent 235lbs. No other boxer even comes close to this.
And who was this opponent? Corrie Sanders, KO ratio 78% (REAL HW) and the exceptional qualities described above. The KO loss included/was initiated by a massive sandwiching headbutt with Corries fist which would have decimated anybody. And Wladimir got up 3 times and finished the fight on his feet!
He has also survived, and come back to win after being rocked by the longest career worth of some of the biggest punchers the division has ever seen.
I don't think WK has an iron chin or anything. But the Wlad=glass jaw is a myth. A myth that has long ago been thoroughly BUSTED!
One thing is certain. There is no HW prior to 1980's apart from someone like Foreman that could ever crack his chin, and he could barely land anything on him!
The situation can be described differently.. LOOK at how weak Joe Frazier is and LOOK at how big and strong Wladimir Klitschko is and how thick his jawline and head is! AS IF he could even hurt him!Ascended likes this.
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Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Postat Klit fans calling Frazier glass jawed!
Joe Frazier had some of the best conditioning ever.
He could punch for 15 rounds non-stop.
Was supremely conditioned.
Had amazing movement and a killer left hook.
vs Klitschko
Glass Jawed
Stamina issues
Slow hands
slow feet
and beaten up by a golfer
I mean if he was whacked by his 4 iron he'd have an excuse
On top of that he ducked him in a rematch and got his big brother to fight for him
Joe Frazier was unathletic in nearly all of his fights. He could punch for 15 rounds because his punches were so weak, nothing like the bombs today and he weighed only just over 200lbs and stood only 5'11". You CAN be chubby and conditioned as Joe was and as modern HW's are. Fair enough.
Everything you said about Klitschko was a blatant lie. He has none of those problems, the golfer he was beat by was also a HW boxer of dangerous repute and he never ducked the rematch, Corrie dropped the belt in order NOT to rematch Klitshcko so he could face Vitali and try to become the first (and only) man to beat both Klitschko.
And you KNOW everything I said about Frazier was true.
His left hook was ok for CW's and bums. It was maybe a killer left hook then, but vs any modern HW opponent, it would be utterly worthless!
And amazing movement? Joe was a face first mauler with zero defence whatsoever. You fool!
If Joe was around today, he would never even become a HW boxer, he is too small and not skilled enough or strong enough to fit in like Byrd or Chambers etc.
And he was so unathletic and limited skilled that he would be uncompetitive at CW either!Ascended likes this.
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insane conditioning!! (spoiler: Prime super-athlete Joe Frazier competes with a race car driver [yes a race car driver], skier and pole vaulter and loses at everything, mostly in a humiliating fashion)
Sloppy modern hws are not athletes with extreme conditioning at Joe Frazier's level.
PAINFUL REALITY: Big name heavyweight boxers in the '70s were slightly better athletes than the average NSB poster. It was a mafia-owned circus sideshow and anyone willing to get punched in the face and talk **** was eligible. But just like the WWF, people loved it.Last edited by ////; 11-17-2014, 04:56 AM.
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