The Mayweather that beat Corrales beats anyone ever below 147

[Reloaded]

First off....Tsyzu was obviously not in his prime when he lost to Hatton. Floyd wouldn't have a problem with him though imo. And as for Chavez I think the welterweight version of Floyd would run and outpoint him for the UD. But at 130 Floyd would have been blown out of the park. Why don't you watch this little fight I have for yea. Floyd Mayweather vs Jesus Chavez, a guy that emulated JCC sr in every facet. The guy was much smaller, with much less skills. This guy gave Floyd all he could handle. here I'll even give you a link

The only reason Floyd won was because he got lucky and made Jesus outpunch himself. JCC Sr would not have tired like that.
Duran with out a shadow of a doubt would have beaten Floyd at 135. The guy was an animal and if anyone beats Floyd at this weight range it's him.

Here is the deal , the first thing you do is say KT wasnt at his best then choose a video of Floyd as if to say to say that is his best , and to add salt in he got lucky , no problems bud great logic , your without a shadow of a doubt is in reality sitting in the darkest of shadows because its pure speculation .

Its all BS , fantasy fights are all BS , truth be told all these fighters can beat each other on THEIR night , thats why its all BS . lol

[creekrat77]

If it didnt matter why did Manny not fight at the division weight , he fought Oscar at 147 , of course it mattered , if weight doesnt matter why did Manny call Cotto out for his 154 title then want another CW and run away when Cotto said yes but no CW , there is only one obvious answer , the weight is what beat Cotto otherwise Manny would have fought him at 147 just like Oscar , the second time around Manny would say I beat Cotto before I can do it again ,,,, with a CW lol

I'm telling you man. Yes weight does matter and in many instances in the sport we have seen weight drained fighters put on a terrible performance. But the CW was mutually agreed upon by Cotto and Manny. He said "I will never sacrifice my body like that again" because he was referring to the sustained beating he took when he should have let his corner throw in the towel. He even said this in the Max Kellerman face off with Margorcheato saying something along the lines of yes I will have my corner throw in the towel if my life is on line like previous fights. He was saying that he was not willing to die in the ring like Margarito. Manny wouldn't fight Cotto at 154 because he doesn't even rehydrate to that much anymore. Adding more weight to his frame might be the breaking point for his finesse in the ring

[creekrat77]

Here is the deal , the first thing you do is say KT wasnt at his best then choose a video of Floyd as if to say to say that is his best , and to add salt in he got lucky , no problems bud great logic , your without a shadow of a doubt is in reality sitting in the darkest of shadows because its pure speculation .

Its all BS , fantasy fights are all BS , truth be told all these fighters can beat each other on THEIR night , thats why its all BS . lol

Yea it really is all bs when it comes down to it

[puga]

Never really held corrales in high regard as far as quality fighter is concerned...he was physically superior to his oppenenst but p4p, he was really a poor man's paul williams....

[Reloaded]

I'm telling you man. Yes weight does matter and in many instances in the sport we have seen weight drained fighters put on a terrible performance. But the CW was mutually agreed upon by Cotto and Manny. He said "I will never sacrifice my body like that again" because he was referring to the sustained beating he took when he should have let his corner throw in the towel. He even said this in the Max Kellerman face off with Margorcheato saying something along the lines of yes I will have my corner throw in the towel if my life is on line like previous fights. He was saying that he was not willing to die in the ring like Margarito. Manny wouldn't fight Cotto at 154 because he doesn't even rehydrate to that much anymore. Adding more weight to his frame might be the breaking point for his finesse in the ring

LOL I need your crystal ball man mine is foggy .

Cotto was talking about the CW if I had the inclination to go find it I would but I cant be bothered , he made basically 2 statements regarding weight , one at fight time when under Top Rank contract saying he was fine with it which is a given , and another when his own boss discussing Manny demanding the second CW , here he said " I will not sacrifice my body like that for another fighter " had nothing to do with a beating it was about the CW .

Floyd stepped in with Canelo at 150 and Canelo was nearly 170 on the night , Floyd fought Cotto at 154 and gave him 15 lbs on the night , Floyd was 150 and gave Oscar 19 lbs , Floyd gave Castillo a lot of weight , gave Corallis a lot of weight .

Now Manny wants to fight Floyd but cant fight the same guys unless they are CWed many pounds lighter , it dont add up , I believe Cotto 154 , Oscar 154 , Canelo 152-154 all beat Manny , actually I believe the top WWs will beat Manny and thats why he wont fight them , they know whats up Manny is trying to keep winning to get a cash out with Floyd , bring in soft touches Algieri and Vargas , its about winning with low risk , he wont fight a top WW you wait and see , its too risky .

[ADP02]

Yes and no , not all CWs are equal it depends on the individual , 2 lb to Canelo is different to 2 lb to Cotto with one being at 147 and the other at 154 the bigger man has a lesser % of himself to lose , the higher the weight class the less effect it can have the lower the weight class the more effect the same 2 lb will have , with Cotto he stated he was drained , Canelo never said anything , both CWs were for the purpose of making the fight easier for the smaller fighters , but the 2 CWs did not have the same physical effect on the opponent , same as with Oscar he was really really bad , dead man walking , Cotto was not this bad but was weakened by the CW , Canello would have been also weakened but not as much .

Like I said in the beginning CWs are not ALL the same .

BS from Reloaded: CWs that Floyd make are all good in your book. Manny is a terrible guy demanding a 145 CW when Manny had to move up divisions.

More BS from Reloaded:
a) Canelo dropping 2lbs is OK, Cotto dropping 1lb compared to his previous fight is not OK.
b) You contradict yourself with 154 Cotto. Now that it's Manny, a 154 Cotto coming at a CW is terrible thing and laughable but you said that it was easy for a bigger, harder to make weight Canelo to do a CW. WTF?


Even more BS from Reloaded:
Because Manny came in the 140s when he fought at lower weights, it's like he is a WW. Just crazy! Then that means a lot of these guys are also WWs because quite a few of them do ...... but for someone knowledgeable about the sport, NO, they are NOT considered WWs. It's not just about making weight! It's about what weight you can handle and can compete at.


Finally:
No you are wrong!
Cotto said before the weigh in that it was laughable because in his previous fight he made 146 easily.
Cotto said right after the weigh in that he would be too strong for Manny
Cotto said after the fight. The reason I lost was that "Manny was too fast and I didn't see his punches"

Canelo:
There are lots of articles of Canelo's team complaining about CWs
Said that making 152 was the hardest part of his training camp. THE HARDEST PART!!!

[RisAri0]

would be nice seeing that Floyd vs. the Manny that fought David Diaz tho

[MurkaMan]

Why aren't you banned?

Go away bro. Im not going to kiss Herns and SRL's butt just because its the popular thing to do. No one wants to tell the truth about them. In THEIR era they were great but if Floyd fought back then it would be shocking to them how good he was. Floyd aint no damn benitez

[ElMeroChingon]

Just rewatched that fight, I really think that was an extremely underrated win for Floyd.
People forget that Corrales at the time was undefeated and steam rolling guys at 130,
Floyd made it look easy and absolutely outclassed him. I've never seen such a clinic at that weight.

You got that all from watching Corrales vs Mayweather.

I think even Robert Garcia(the trainer) was doing pretty good against Corrales before he got stopped, and Garcia was a small guy, and hurt Corrales pretty bad in the 2nd round.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't think so but he wouldn't be an easy fight for anyone IMO. But I don't think he'd beat Duran at 135 or Chavez at 140. Guys like Ortiz, Whitaker, Armstrong, etc I would pick over him.

130 I think he beats most,if not all, though.