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    OK, I'm glad you didn't refute anything I said about how his titles were stripped (you showed a TINY bit of wisdom in that, and of course I educated you as shown in your prior post- you were totally clueless), but saying that the onus is on the unified champion and not the newly emerged contender at 175 speaks for itself. Idiocy. As Frank Cappuccino says "I leave it with you."

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      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
      OK, I'm glad you didn't refute anything I said about how his titles were stripped (you showed a TINY bit of wisdom in that, and of course I educated you as shown in your prior post- you were totally clueless), but saying that the onus is on the unified champion and not the newly emerged contender at 175 speaks for itself. Idiocy. As Frank Cappuccino says "I leave it with you."

      What you sum up as "dirty pool" really needed no refuting. The bottom line was that Darius was content to sit in Germany and face stiffs, struggling with many of them, before he was ultimatly defeated by leftovers that Roy toyed with.

      His attendance at Ringside for the Jones Hill fight suggested he was considering making the fight with Roy, and the fact he never returned to the US speaks for iteslf.

      You have done no educating, becuase you're a nut hugging long winded stooge who can't accpet being wrong. It's why you changed the subject in the 1st place.

      After all your huffing, you don't disagree with what I said about Calzaghe, and your long winded attempts at trying to word Darius being the better fighter than Roy are outright ******.

      He was a sheltered waste who struggled with sub par opposition. Roy didn't need him to confirm his status, it was the other way around. But when you saw Richard Hall ****ing up Darius, it couldn't be anymore clear as to what his motivations were.
      Last edited by Bozo_no no; 03-10-2006, 07:07 PM.

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        Calzaghe will be a clear hall of famer before his career is said and done-anyone who refutes this is simply put reverse nuthugger.

        The best thing about Joe is when he gets in the ring weather he goes for it-he doesnt leave any doubt in anyones mind.

        I have little doubt in my mind he will beat Tarve3r if they hook up-this is the sure fire way to the hall-right thru Toney Tarver.

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          Originally posted by scap
          Calzaghe will be a clear hall of famer before his career is said and done-anyone who refutes this is simply put reverse nuthugger.

          The best thing about Joe is when he gets in the ring weather he goes for it-he doesnt leave any doubt in anyones mind.

          I have little doubt in my mind he will beat Tarve3r if they hook up-this is the sure fire way to the hall-right thru Toney Tarver.

          If that happens I'll give you my phone number so you can call me to gloat.

          Your post is all speculation about things that haven't happened yet, that doesn't carry any weight in a debate.

          And your notion about "doesn't leave any doubt in anyone's mind" was brilliant in the Lacy fight, but when that claim is made with regard to the rest of the guys he fought, it means very little. Add to that I think Mitchell wouldn't like the sound of that comment.

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            Originally posted by Bozo_no no
            If that happens I'll give you my phone number so you can call me to gloat.

            Your post is all speculation about things that haven't happened yet, that doesn't carry any weight in a debate.

            And your notion about "doesn't leave any doubt in anyone's mind" was brilliant in the Lacy fight, but when that claim is made with regard to the rest of the guys he fought, it means very little. Add to that I think Mitchell wouldn't like the sound of that comment.

            Watch Mitchell after the stoppage-he didnt seem to upset, listen to Byron i the post fight interview..again doesnt sound like a fighter who wa all that upset...it wasnt Joe's fault the fight was vut short-the fans got cheatedd that night but are you trying to tell me you think Mitchell had him?

            What fight has Joe barely won? the one time he wasnt not given the nod by a judge in aq fight was against Robin Reid and according to Dougie Fischer Calzaghe easily controlled the fight. (I never saw it)

            Other then that Joe has never been in danger of losing-it has been as clear as a beautiful Segundo Mercado night!

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              If he ends up undefeated he's clearly HOF bound.

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                Originally posted by scap
                Watch Mitchell after the stoppage-he didnt seem to upset, listen to Byron i the post fight interview..again doesnt sound like a fighter who wa all that upset...it wasnt Joe's fault the fight was vut short-the fans got cheatedd that night but are you trying to tell me you think Mitchell had him?

                What fight has Joe barely won? the one time he wasnt not given the nod by a judge in aq fight was against Robin Reid and according to Dougie Fischer Calzaghe easily controlled the fight. (I never saw it)

                Other then that Joe has never been in danger of losing-it has been as clear as a beautiful Segundo Mercado night!

                He was definatly looking shakey in the Mitchell fight.

                And aside from that, he hasn't looked in trouble because he's been fighting 2nd tier Suppermiddleweights his whole career. He resume prior to Lacy's is outright weak.

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                  Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                  He was definatly looking shakey in the Mitchell fight.

                  And aside from that, he hasn't looked in trouble because he's been fighting 2nd tier Suppermiddleweights his whole career. He resume prior to Lacy's is outright weak.

                  It is what the 168 pound division had to offer-I know I know besides the much avoided Sven Ottke. Ottke would have flat out embarrassed Joe like he did Byron Mitchel and Charles Brewer)

                  Uncle...I give...Bernard's resume pre-tito was stellar-it makes Calzaghe's look pathetic.

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                    Originally posted by scap
                    It is what the 168 pound division had to offer-I know I know besides the much avoided Sven Ottke. Ottke would have flat out embarrassed Joe like he did Byron Mitchel and Charles Brewer)

                    Uncle...I give...Bernard's resume pre-tito was stellar-it makes Calzaghe's look pathetic.
                    We've been through this before: Through out his tenure at SuperMiddleweight, he missed fights with Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, & Danny Green.

                    All I ever hear is a list of excuses about each fight, and how they were poor opponents that wouldn't have proved anything.

                    The bottom line is that most of them were better than the opposition he did face, and leaving so many contenders while fighting guys a step below them shows that he didn't come close to cleaning out the division.

                    You are again compairing sections of their careers in order to try and maintain this ill faded point.

                    When you subtract part of Bernard's career, and give me a bunch of "ifs" about what Joe may do from here on in, it seems to make you feel better about what you're trying to say.

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                      Robert Allen.

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