I just rewatched Mayweather vs Marquez - WOW Floyd was spectactular!

[New England]

What's that have to do with the time in which they fought New? When both of them fought there wasn't a considerable size advantage coming from Bradley which is what I'm saying. Bradley went through a depression, stopped taking care of himself. Marquez, judging by Golpe a Golpe looks to walk around 155ish, so he stays in pretty good shape.

it proves that he is an outright smaller man.


marquez was a freaking featherweight for a decade and a half. tim bradley started his career at 140 lbs, and is ripped down to the bone at WW at 31. bradley was a 140 lber when marquez was at 126. marquez is 10 years older than bradley.

it's going to be a complete waste of time for me to try and explain why that matters. you should hear it and say "oh."



why was marquez a FW for 15 years, and why wasn't bradley?

[New England]

sometimes, you just need to let NE sit you on his lap, and teach you things.

[ShoulderRoll]

Did you soil your pants watching Floyd beat a lightweight? Yep you truly are a stan lol

Did you cry when that same lightweight put Pac to sleep? Yep you are truly bitter lol.

[Reginald Ledoux]

sometimes, you just need to let NE sit you on his lap, and teach you things.

[Doctor_Tenma]

it proves that he is an outright smaller man.


marquez was a freaking featherweight for a decade and a half. tim bradley started his career at 140 lbs, and is ripped down to the bone at WW at 31. bradley was a 140 lber when marquez was at 126. marquez is 10 years older than bradley.

it's going to be a complete waste of time for me to try and explain why that matters. you should hear it and say "oh."



why was marquez a FW for 15 years, and why wasn't bradley?

You've gone away from the focus point, Bradley boxed, as did John and Mayweather. They utilized their lengths to force Marquez out of his element. It's not coincidental that Mayweather who is classes above those guys not only took Marquez out of his element but did so in a far more impressive manner. We can only agree to disagree on size, I don't see it, never have, didn't see it when it was signed and I certainly don't see this "So much bigger" now.

[Doctor_Tenma]

sometimes, you just need to let NE sit you on his lap, and teach you things.

What kills me is that we're even discussing something this useless

[IMDAZED]

It isn't going to kill you to admit that a 12-round shutout over Juan Manuel Marquez while coming off a two-year layoff is a great win. The arguments against it are really flimsy and just make you shake your head.

Some people pretend Mayweather weighed so much more because of the weigh-in debacle, as if he came into the ring weighing 160. The guy's still fighting at welter five years later and there is absolutely no proof that he's ever ballooned beyond even 152. Besides, can anyone really sit there and pretend it was Floyd's size advantage that got him the win? As if he went all Margarito on Marquez or something.

I didn't think this was that great a win at the outset -- and said that -- simply because I didn't think Marquez was natural at that weight. He then moved down to 135 and then had a 2min farce of a fight at 140. I still thought he wasn't natural at welter when he moved back up to face Pacquiao, but he looked elite in that third bout and we all know what happened in the fourth. Maybe Memo used something illegal, maybe it was just Marquez finally getting a real conditioning coach. But unfortunately for some of you, that takes nothing away from what he did to Pacquiao and he is a great fighter in his own right. Just like even if I thought Pacquiao was juiced to the gills against Cotto, it takes nothing away from what he did and it doesn't taint or effect the enormity of the win in my eyes. Mayweather shut Marquez out over 12 rounds because he was the superior fighter. And when two future HOF'ers meet while still at their peak and one outclasses the other, it's a great win.

[djtmal]

Decent win. Marquez looked stuck in the mud.

[Reloaded]

Decent win. Marquez looked stuck in the mud.

A Ferrari looks stuck in mud when its against a Formula 1 car .

[Pretty Boy32]

It isn't going to kill you to admit that a 12-round shutout over Juan Manuel Marquez while coming off a two-year layoff is a great win. The arguments against it are really flimsy and just make you shake your head.

Some people pretend Mayweather weighed so much more because of the weigh-in debacle, as if he came into the ring weighing 160. The guy's still fighting at welter five years later and there is absolutely no proof that he's ever ballooned beyond even 152. Besides, can anyone really sit there and pretend it was Floyd's size advantage that got him the win? As if he went all Margarito on Marquez or something.

I didn't think this was that great a win at the outset -- and said that -- simply because I didn't think Marquez was natural at that weight. He then moved down to 135 and then had a 2min farce of a fight at 140. I still thought he wasn't natural at welter when he moved back up to face Pacquiao, but he looked elite in that third bout and we all know what happened in the fourth. Maybe Memo used something illegal, maybe it was just Marquez finally getting a real conditioning coach. But unfortunately for some of you, that takes nothing away from what he did to Pacquiao and he is a great fighter in his own right. Just like even if I thought Pacquiao was juiced to the gills against Cotto, it takes nothing away from what he did and it doesn't taint or effect the enormity of the win in my eyes. Mayweather shut Marquez out over 12 rounds because he was the superior fighter. And when two future HOF'ers meet while still at their peak and one outclasses the other, it's a great win.

Good post mate.