Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao is Broke, Desperate For Payday!

[bimhead]

I really, really, hate Bob Arum, and everything he stands for, and I really, really, hope Floyd never fights any fighter signed to Top Rank ever. I can see a way out, as I told you before (I think), have Manny pay a step aside fee to Arum, out of his purse ($40 million plus a PPV cut), and let Floyd promote the fight on Showtime. HBO (Merchant and Lampley) have been very disrespectful too. It's a long shot but if Floyd still wouldn't fight Manny, after agreeing to that, I would start calling him a duck too.

thats a great way to deal with all this b.s,i like the step-aside arum[who you hate,hate,hate,lol] method too,and i believe it can work...cross our fingers!

[IMDAZED]

Actually he did. In an interview he was quoted, " what does he bring to the table. We know he can be outboxed. We know he can be knocked out." and he said,"cotto to me is undefeated cuz margarito cheated him and pacquiao weight drained him. I want fighters to be at their best."

He's dissed fighters he's fought for being broke, for losing, for being KO'ed. And fought them. End of story.

"There are six ways to beat Arturo Gatti."

"Shane Mosley is broke."

Blah blah. Doesn't mean he was scared to fight them.

[Bronx2245]

Who "retired" and who kept on fighting and winning? Yet, the "retiree" came back fought a fat Jmm and hes the a side doe. Laughable.

From the time Mayweather retired (12-08-07) to the time he fought Marquez (09-09-09), Manny beat David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya @ 147 (the guy Mayweather already beat @ 154), and Ricky Hatton (another guy Mayweather already beat @ 147). So other than David Diaz, a lightweight, what did Manny prove while Mayweather was retired? What would make Manny the A side...David Diaz?

[richardt]

Check the date homie:

By Leo Reyes, Analyst Sep 22, 2012

Eight-division world champion Manny Pacquiao has finally agreed to everything Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants in order to make what seems to be the biggest and most lucrative fight in boxing history.

One of the major conditions demanded by Mayweather during the early stage of negotiations almost three years ago was the Olympic-style drug test (OSDT), which required Pacquiao to submit to a random drug test all the way up to the day of the fight.

Mayweather believed Pacquiao was taking performance enhancing drugs which gave him an added advantage over his opponents during his previous fights.

In order to come to an agreement, Pacquiao offered a 14-day drug testing window, saying he feels weak when blood is taken from his body and would need a few days to recover.

Mayweather balked at Pacquiao's offer and after weeks and months of negotiations, Pacquiao relented and changed his offer to seven days.

Still, Mayweather continued to criticize Pacquiao for his refusal to join him in what he called an action necessary to clean the sport of boxing.

In his desire to give boxing fans the fight they have long wanted to see, Pacquiao finally decided to agree on Mayweather's demand without pre-conditions.



It's not like he just agreed to testing in the first negotiations. He came around in 2012! The question many people have always had was "why would you want any cut-off dates?"

I remember late 2011 Pac agreed to WADA/VADA random testing. But the whole mess comes down to two huge egos and the teams of people behind them with equally massive egos. And that's like bulls colliding when too many people think they are the A side and the truth is, they both are the A side. My solution is to have a team of accountants work every figure over the last 10 year of what each fighter has made and then make the split based on that. If it's 65/35 or 60/40 or 62/38 in favor of mayweather, so be it. Then get mayweather to work with someone else on Pac's team and not Arum. But Mayweather's ego wont allow working with someone else and Arum's ego probably wouldn't allow someone else to represent him in place of his presence. I wish some neutral entity would come in and get all sides to just sit down and just discuss things further instead of taking things to media outlets for venting purposes.

[keenly]

He's dissed fighters he's fought for being broke, for losing, for being KO'ed. And fought them. End of story.

"There are six ways to beat Arturo Gatti."

"Shane Mosley is broke."

Blah blah. Doesn't mean he was scared to fight them.

Of course he wasn't. Gatti was a bum and Mosley over the hill, former roid user, low on testosterone.

Floyd is scared of fighters at their prime. His record is a joke.

[El-blanco]

Check the date homie:

By Leo Reyes, Analyst Sep 22, 2012

Eight-division world champion Manny Pacquiao has finally agreed to everything Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants in order to make what seems to be the biggest and most lucrative fight in boxing history.

One of the major conditions demanded by Mayweather during the early stage of negotiations almost three years ago was the Olympic-style drug test (OSDT), which required Pacquiao to submit to a random drug test all the way up to the day of the fight.

Mayweather believed Pacquiao was taking performance enhancing drugs which gave him an added advantage over his opponents during his previous fights.

In order to come to an agreement, Pacquiao offered a 14-day drug testing window, saying he feels weak when blood is taken from his body and would need a few days to recover.

Mayweather balked at Pacquiao's offer and after weeks and months of negotiations, Pacquiao relented and changed his offer to seven days.

Still, Mayweather continued to criticize Pacquiao for his refusal to join him in what he called an action necessary to clean the sport of boxing.

In his desire to give boxing fans the fight they have long wanted to see, Pacquiao finally decided to agree on Mayweather's demand without pre-conditions.



It's not like he just agreed to testing in the first negotiations. He came around in 2012! The question many people have always had was "why would you want any cut-off dates?"

Your article actually proves the opposite of what you are trying to convey. It shows he was willing to do everything in 2012 and it still wasn't enough.

[The Big Dunn]

You can sell 800 million PPV's if it's costing you money then who cares. Subscriptions are up... you're on drugs if you think it's only because of boxing. They have high quality programs like Ray Donovan and Shameless which is why people subscribe. Using your same numbers, all you did was really spin it in Floyd's favor. When I look at those numbers I see that they did 2.2 million buys in May 2003 and then it took them a year and half to get roughly that same number at 2.5 million.

Think about that for a minute. It took Floyd 3 other PPV's to get the same number he got with Canelo except his fee went from 40 million... to 96 MILLION dollars and you're going to sit here and tell me Showtime is doing great. Keep trying Dunn, I admire your resolve. You're like the Margarito of NSB, always getting beat down but you keep on fighting.

In no way was I implying or suggesting it was only because of Floyd. See what I mean about trying to fit everything in to one box?

I never used the or implied they were doing great. WHy do you continue to change what I said and then want me to debate it? why can't we just debate the points I made-same way we do with the points you make?

This isn't about winning or losing, its about truth and everyday logic employed when discussing boxing.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

we all kno floyd contradicts himself and has issues but it really amazes me that after freddie roach and ariza both admitted they were the reason the fight didnt happen when it mattered, pacs fanatics ignore it and act like it wasnt said, i mean these guys will argue with pacs trainer????? why do u all act like this isnt a reason the fight didnt happen??? why is all your blame on floyd even after all of this?? yet anything u hear about floyd in a negative light you take it and run with it as a fact but ignore actual facts????

now ariza comes out n says it again that both floyd and pac want the fight, sugar ray leonard says none of these guys are scared of eachother yet everyday posters come here with the same arguments daily.... should we listn to you over people who are actually apart of the situation?? can yu all explain this elephant in the room?

[darius45]

Fact: Floyd isn't confident he can avoid getting tagged with manny's straight lefts... If Maidana could hit him... imagine what Manny will do... Manny will test Floyd's chin like no one ever has, that's a fact... And Floyd doesn't want to take that test.

Floyd posting that imagine on his Facebook is good publicity for both fighters... and that's all it will ever be, publicity... not a prelude to the greatest boxing event in history... another fact.... stop dreaming

[KaL-EL]

Only Floyd and his fans care about how much money Pac has.

another road block from Floyd