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    #61
    If Ward is in agreement with his promoter, then why isn't he fighting ANYBODY ? Why isn't he sending offers to ANYBODY ? Of course, GGG should have at least 50% if he fights Ward, as GGG is already a better draw. NOBODY wants to fight Ward, and not too many people want to pay for seeing him fight.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Cuban Linx View Post
      Why is Dubin even talking?

      Dubin, keep doing what you do best. Keep losing court cases, keep putting Andre in debt, keep filling his head with delusions of grandeur.

      It seems like team Ward just doesn't get it.

      If they think that GGG is going to move up to 168 to face Ward, in a non-PPV event, and still accept being the B-side in the matchup, they are absolutely delusional. That will NEVER happen. The sooner they accept that, the sooner the fight may take place. You have to give him incentive to move up. GGG is obviously B-side to Froch and Chavez, because those two fights include a PPV pay structure. The Ward fight does not.

      What Wards team needs to do is focus on getting their fighter in the ring. Stop losing to Goossen. Stop filling his head with delusions of grandeur.
      GGG was not going to get any of the PPV proceeds against Chavez Jr. He was getting a flat $2 million. Froch's team is not interested in a GGG fight because they thinks GGG is a noboby who brings nothing to the table. Therefore, he doesn't have the option of being the B-side of a Froch fight.

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        #63
        Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
        Everyone has an opinion and no one on this message board has any problem stating their opinion. However, lets take a look at the facts. The only indisputable fact in this debate is this:

        1. Golovkin was willing to move up to 168 to fight Chavez Jr. for $2 million, while Chavez Jr. was scheduled to earn $7 million.

        You can interpret this any way you want. What I see is that GGG was willing to move up to 168 to fight Chavez for less than one-third of the money Chavez was getting. However, he is demanding 50 percent for a fight with Ward. That tells me that the Golovkin team does not want to fight Ward.
        That was a PPV fight... GGG, to my understanding, was also going to get a small percentage of the PPV buys (not totally sure about this), Chavez obviously getting a bigger percentage. Plus the residual effects of a PPV fight are huge. If he won (there is a strong chance he would have) he would've become a headliner in the future for more PPV events. Even if he lost he'd still be an attraction. It was a winnable fight that would have resulted in big future rewards.

        With Ward he wont even get $1M. That's a non-PPV event, and HBO would probably put up like $1.5M. If HBO puts up $1.5M, and the fight is 50/50, he's getting like 750K against an opponent that's never put up big numbers or headlined a PPV, and one that is also very skilled. Team Ward has to give him an incentive to move up.

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          #64
          Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
          GGG was not going to get any of the PPV proceeds against Chavez Jr. He was getting a flat $2 million. Froch's team is not interested in a GGG fight because they thinks GGG is a noboby who brings nothing to the table. Therefore, he doesn't have the option of being the B-side of a Froch fight.
          Ok, let's say he was just going to get $2M flat. That's still way more than he would have gotten facing Ward. Plus you have to take into account the residual effects of a PPV fight.

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            #65
            Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
            Everyone has an opinion and no one on this message board has any problem stating their opinion. However, lets take a look at the facts. The only indisputable fact in this debate is this:

            1. Golovkin was willing to move up to 168 to fight Chavez Jr. for $2 million, while Chavez Jr. was scheduled to earn $7 million.

            You can interpret this any way you want. What I see is that GGG was willing to move up to 168 to fight Chavez for less than one-third of the money Chavez was getting. However, he is demanding 50 percent for a fight with Ward. That tells me that the Golovkin team does not want to fight Ward.
            What you're missing is that Chavez' promoter made him an offer, a very good one. Ward's people are saying B-side GGG should make an offer, which makes no sense like OnePunch explained.

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              #66
              thats right it shouldn't be 50-50 theres NO WAY WARD SHOULD GET 50 it should be like 65-35 in favor of ward, ward cant draw flies to ****.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Resilient View Post
                Ward stay ducking Stevenson and Kovalev.
                this is true, ward always wants guys to move up to him, but will never move up? Theres no one for him to fight in his division so he needs to move up, yet he wont he wouldnt even give dawson a catchweight. If ward was to small to fight dawson at 175, why cant he move down and fight GGG at 160??? **** ward

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
                  Why? - Because Ward's the best boxer of this generation. The guy is a living ****in legend. The split should be 99/1 for Ward, and even then, that's obscenely generous
                  And he's the Son of God too.

                  He's bigger than John the Baptist was.

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                    #69
                    Andre Ward and his people are becoming desperate.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post
                      Golovkin isn't chasing a fight with Ward. Ward's the one talking, getting mileage out of Golovkin's name without having to fight, so he should send the contract and make the offer - if he's serious, which I don't believe he is.
                      "Golovkin's name" Lol. I doubt too many people even know his name. Are they fighting in Kazakstan or something?

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