Comments Thread For: Bellew: Gennady Golovkin Absolutely Blasts Miguel Cotto

[GhostBlade]

If Cotto takes a fight with Golovkin then he deserves all the respect in the world. Golovkin would no doubt be a heavy favorite but Cotto is more motivated than ever and could seriously catch Golovkin off-guard at some points. The fight would no doubt sell out Madison Square Garden.

[cruz1383]

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So what was he supposed to say? "Yes my knees are done, Cotto fought a hell of a fight but I was nothing of my true self in there without my knees under me" haha. I guess Cotto fans weren't born with common sense. This is the business of boxing, and you can't make people think they've been lied to into buying high profile boxing ppv's.

Please point out to where I said a 40% Sergio would beat Cotto. What others have said is irrelevant. So let me get this straight.....you have to be a doctor to understand the definition of what an MRI is? LOL, sell that to the rest of your delusional Cotto fan base bro. I suppose you also know Sergio personally to know why he took the fight right? Get serious bro.

If you read my first post I said I didn’t believe the story Sergio gave about his knee being good but he went and got a medical assessment and it was determined by a medical specialist and a medical doctor that his knees were fine. what he said was what he said we all have are opinion of what happen and the only one that can tell you is Sergio to me I saw a health Sergio at the start of the 1 round and then he got knocked on the side of the head and was never the same ( this isn’t the only time this has happened to him either Chavez Jr. did the same in the 12th of their fight) was his knees fed to me the doc said no Sergio said no and his team said no. now do you think they paid the doctor to falsify a hospital assessment just to save face and " take it like a man" or persuade him to say his knees are OK???
As far as being a “doctor to understand the definition of an MRI” no you don’t have to be a doctor but it is apparent that you can’t understand what a medical assessment from a medical doctor stating that Sergio’s knees were good is so I do question your ability to comprehend what a definition of an MRI is...

Cotto fans Lack common sense?? Ok first it was a fight that Sergio thought he had in the bag and most fan thought the same (I thought that it was a 60/40 for Sergio I and so many were wrong). Sergio fan and haters at the time weren’t talking about the common sense that Sergio just had knee surgery (only a select few did talk about his knees) and he was out for over a 1yr what most saw was Sergio is going to add Cotto’s name to his resume in a fashionable KO when that didn’t happen it was excuses after excuses if cotto lost the fight there would be no mention about Sergio’s knees (even though he would still have the same knees he does now) the talk would be how Sergio is so great and he will probably fight GGG or Canelo.

The real common sense that most can agree on is that we will never know if Sergio’s knees were fine we will only be able to speculate. The only way to know for sure is if sergio comes out and says something was wrong later on or when he fights again and we can gauge how he move and then we will be able to tell if it was the knees or if it was the combination of Cotto’s punch to the side of the head and the year plus layoff on top of the 3 knock down that put Sergio on wobbly legs for the rest of the fight. I really think it’s the punch to the side + 1plus yr. layoff and 3 kd that did it not so much the legs. If it comes out that it’s his leg then we will all know and I will stand corrected till then no offense but I’ll take what the real doctor says and ill let you get back to diagnosing knee injuries from your computer.

[hitking]

With overrating, naturally comes hating.

Golovkin is grossly overrated and I can't stand it. Yes, I would love nothing more than to see him lose to see his fans humble down and cross bandwagons like they did with Matthysse losing to Garcia, they said then Matthysse didn't stand a chance against Provodnikov, then Prov loses to a featherfisted boxer, and all attention is back to Golovkin. When Golovkin loses, all attention will be on Kovalev.

Overraters and bandwagon hoppers saying irrational things about who a fighter can beat, without the fighter ever fighting any one in the level of the fighter that his fans claim he can beat, can cause fans to turn on those fighters being over hyped.

See, for example, most Floyd fans agree that Floyd loses to SRL, on the other hand, many Golovkin fans feel that he can beat Marvin Hagler. Don't ask me to link you up, it's too old and it was after the Proksa fight. Something like 30+ votes for GGG and 50 for Hagler. I imagine those 30+ votes for GGG were the usual suspects.

I agree. GGG isn't a world class elite fighter yet like these forums and HBO praise him to be. It was just like how Canelo was a god on these forums around the time he beat Josesito Lopez. But then after that, his buzz sunk down after a less impressive win vs Trout. Everyone was saying how Floyd was scared of him and ducking him only to take the fight and embarrass Canelo, now he isn't like he use to be around here.
Yes, Kovalev will be the next hype train in full force soon.

[thatdudespits]

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If you read my first post I said I didn’t believe the story Sergio gave about his knee being good but he went and got a medical assessment and it was determined by a medical specialist and a medical doctor that his knees were fine. what he said was what he said we all have are opinion of what happen and the only one that can tell you is Sergio to me I saw a health Sergio at the start of the 1 round and then he got knocked on the side of the head and was never the same ( this isn’t the only time this has happened to him either Chavez Jr. did the same in the 12th of their fight) was his knees fed to me the doc said no Sergio said no and his team said no. now do you think they paid the doctor to falsify a hospital assessment just to save face and " take it like a man" or persuade him to say his knees are OK???
As far as being a “doctor to understand the definition of an MRI” no you don’t have to be a doctor but it is apparent that you can’t understand what a medical assessment from a medical doctor stating that Sergio’s knees were good is so I do question your ability to comprehend what a definition of an MRI is...

Cotto fans Lack common sense?? Ok first it was a fight that Sergio thought he had in the bag and most fan thought the same (I thought that it was a 60/40 for Sergio I and so many were wrong). Sergio fan and haters at the time weren’t talking about the common sense that Sergio just had knee surgery (only a select few did talk about his knees) and he was out for over a 1yr what most saw was Sergio is going to add Cotto’s name to his resume in a fashionable KO when that didn’t happen it was excuses after excuses if cotto lost the fight there would be no mention about Sergio’s knees (even though he would still have the same knees he does now) the talk would be how Sergio is so great and he will probably fight GGG or Canelo.

The real common sense that most can agree on is that we will never know if Sergio’s knees were fine we will only be able to speculate. The only way to know for sure is if sergio comes out and says something was wrong later on or when he fights again and we can gauge how he move and then we will be able to tell if it was the knees or if it was the combination of Cotto’s punch to the side of the head and the year plus layoff on top of the 3 knock down that put Sergio on wobbly legs for the rest of the fight. I really think it’s the punch to the side + 1plus yr. layoff and 3 kd that did it not so much the legs. If it comes out that it’s his leg then we will all know and I will stand corrected till then no offense but I’ll take what the real doctor says and ill let you get back to diagnosing knee injuries from your computer.

I agree with you for the most part, however anyone who follows my postings knows I picked Cotto to win by TKO 10. I thought Cotto's speed would bother Martinez who hadn't faced a fighter as quick as Miguel Cotto. I thought Cotto's defense was quite a bit better than Sergio's.
Cotto proved me right. Count me among the people that believe Cotto would have always been an extremely difficult fight for Martinez. As far as the knee issue goes, I believe Sergio and his doctor. We're his knees truly 100%? Probably not, but they were definitely as good as any surgery would make them. His knee is not what cost him the fight. He never stopped moving in the fight. Sergio was on shaky legs in the first just like any fighter who gets caught with a punch that ****s up their equilibrium would be ala Amir Khan, Judah and Cotto himself vs Corlet. None of those guys had ****ed up knees.

As far as Golovkin, I think it's a dangerous fight for both guys. Golovkin clearly possesses the size and strength advantage, but Cotto has the edge defensively, he has a huge speed and quickness advantage.Cotto skill wise is light years beyond anyone GGG has ever faced. No one's ever had an easy time with Cotto and I don't expect Golovkin to. I do expect Cotto to take this challenge some time in the near future because he has the balls to do so. Let's see if GGG can maintain this aura of invincibility until then.

[Dr Rumack]

Cotto will never fight Golovkin. Canelo might.

[cruz1383]

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I agree with you for the most part, however anyone who follows my postings knows I picked Cotto to win by TKO 10. I thought Cotto's speed would bother Martinez who hadn't faced a fighter as quick as Miguel Cotto. I thought Cotto's defense was quite a bit better than Sergio's.
Cotto proved me right. Count me among the people that believe Cotto would have always been an extremely difficult fight for Martinez. As far as the knee issue goes, I believe Sergio and his doctor. We're his knees truly 100%? Probably not, but they were definitely as good as any surgery would make them. His knee is not what cost him the fight. He never stopped moving in the fight. Sergio was on shaky legs in the first just like any fighter who gets caught with a punch that ****s up their equilibrium would be ala Amir Khan, Judah and Cotto himself vs Corlet. None of those guys had ****ed up knees.

As far as Golovkin, I think it's a dangerous fight for both guys. Golovkin clearly possesses the size and strength advantage, but Cotto has the edge defensively, he has a huge speed and quickness advantage.Cotto skill wise is light years beyond anyone GGG has ever faced. No one's ever had an easy time with Cotto and I don't expect Golovkin to. I do expect Cotto to take this challenge some time in the near future because he has the balls to do so. Let's see if GGG can maintain this aura of invincibility until then.

i really couldnt agree more with this perfectly said....

[cruz1383]

Cotto will never fight Golovkin. Canelo might.

lol yea thats what they said about half the fights cotto took people said he wouldnt. but cotto's resume compared to other fighter of this era speaks for it self. canelo is growing and fast but to say he will take fights and cotto will duck is just plain ball gargaling. Cotto has taken on all he could, lost some and won a lot what more can you ask of a fighter?? took on margo with loaded wraps when others didnt want any to on yuri at the time when other didnt want to (because he was too tall yet he was no taller then margo hint hint ) fought Quntana after he distroyed joel julio and before Quintana gave a boxing lesson to the punisher Paul williams no to mention meny more.

[Beater_of_ass]

Thank you for practically saying nothing. Your argument is purely on the basis that Sergio was 100% healthy in there so theirs really not point. Pointing out specific events on how the fight played out isn't going to convince me that Cottos "well-schooled" boxing technique took over when Sergio was unable to impose his own style with bum knees.

Nothing you said was wrong? Keeping thinking that buddy. Martinez mentioned Pavlik was the hardest puncher he faced but the toughest fights was against The Punisher. Get your facts straight. And don't worry buddy, nobody is frustrated with Sergio because injuries happen in sports and we cant fault athletes for trying to work through them. Delusional Cotto fans are the ones I actually feel bad for because they can't seem to watch their hero's fights with a neutral eye.

P.S - GGG beats a healthy Sergio any day IMHO

You took that Sergio fight hard man, even us delusional Cotto fans weren't this butthurt after the Margarito beat down. When they fought Cotto won, the end.

[Da Boxer]

Cotto will never fight Golovkin. Canelo might.

...and when Cotto takes the fight, and beats GGG then you and everyone else will say that he was overrated and did not had the experience to fight Cotto.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

...and when Cotto takes the fight, and beats GGG then you and everyone else will say that he was overrated and did not had the experience to fight Cotto.

Cotto is not taking that fight.

Unless GGG breaks his hip or something.