Andre Ward said in 2012 he'd fight anyone at 168 or 175

[The Hammer]

ward is a grade a liar who uses his christianity to pretend he is an honest man, i hate him even more for that. He is a christian fraud.

I still remember his interview on sky sports when he claimed froch never wanted to fight him, yet a week earlier froch had called him out on national tv for a rematch. Ward claimed he was a bigger attraction in the us than froch in the uk, as another reason for not fighting him. All lies.

I agree. Ward should not call himself the Son of God, he sets a poor example for Christians.

"Do not bear false witness" but he lies about Froch not wanting to fight him

"Do onto others as you would have them do onto you" yet he is an extremely selfish prima donna, the exact opposite of what you would expect a Christian to be like

[Showtime..]

Ducked Bute, Stevenson, and Kovalev.. Get real. This dude is a wuss. The talent is there, the balls aren't.

[The Big Dunn]

You make yourself look guilty in the exact same thing as you are accusing Freedom of. You hold one responsible while giving the other guy a pass.

And as far as Freedom pointing out Ward's hypocrisy, he hits bullseye. Furthermore Ward is lying when he says that nobody wants to fight him as he asked for and got an offer for a Kessler fight. Upon recieving it he said he'd be back with a counteroffer. Well. He didn't.

I'm fed up with Ward. Why is he always in threads? He is not relevant. He does not want to fight and he hasn't fought a live body in 3 years.

I said ward and ggg are doing the same thing and should both be criticized. I never gave ward a pass. The issue is ggg because he is fighting and supposedly doesn't have any opponents to fight.

If you did what you said you would have opponents.

If you are tired of hearing about ward-tell people to stop bringing him up.

[E. O. Wilson]

He has not ducked anyone..he has been injured and now has promotional issues..how can you duck someone when you dont fight..since 2012 he has fought 2 times

The thing is he knew damn well he wasn't going to fight because of those issues but still "challenged" all these guys and when it didn't materialize he acted like they were ducking him. It got old fast.

The promotional equivalent of a lazy jab. Just throwing his name out there all limp to score points with no serious intentions.

[The Big Dunn]

Who are you trying to fool? I remember your butthurt posts after the fight, then you got banned and then you came back critizing Broner.



Of course you can, as long you have low opinion of other fighters who fights as dirty as Wlad.





Three latino fighters and that's it In every black fighter vs fighter of diffrent race thread you ALWAYS ride with black fighter. You ain't fooling anyone D. And please don't compare me to Gong , that guy is a racist twat. Freedom? He provides this forum with many information, he's much better poster than you or me are.



I criticize Wlad, especially after Povetkin fight, but I can appreciate his greatness which is unquestionable.

Search your history and tell me you don't favour black fighters

You can easily check the history to prove yourself wrong. I doubt if you do.

My opinion of wlad isn't because he's dirty. I just have watched his career and find him to be the best of a crap division. I can have any opinion of any fighter I choose, even if they fight exactly like wlad.

Those are my next 3 current favorite boxers after floyd. I didn't feel the need to list more.

That's because those threads are crap like this where the TS clearly made the thread for another reason.

Tunney has a history here on NSB that's well known, despite his vast knowledge of the hwt's.

Ok, and I have him as the #3 p4p boxer right now. I give him his respect, but that doesn't change the fact I have a low opinion of him based on his career.

I favor floyd it's because I'm a big fan. Same as if I favor Bhop. Do I favor wilder? Russell? Yes, I picked broner to beat maidana and was wrong.

You can run with whatever opinion of me you choose. Again when threads like these pop up you know what the agenda is-whether you admit it or not-which is why you are trying to shift the thread topic.

GGG and ward are doing the same thing. Call them both on it.

[soul_survivor]

I agree. Ward should not call himself the Son of God, he sets a poor example for Christians.

"Do not bear false witness" but he lies about Froch not wanting to fight him

"Do onto others as you would have them do onto you" yet he is an extremely selfish prima donna, the exact opposite of what you would expect a Christian to be like

lol exactly

Ducked Bute, Stevenson, and Kovalev.. Get real. This dude is a wuss. The talent is there, the balls aren't.

I remember another interview of Ward, following the super six when he was asked about fighting Bute, who was regarded as either number one or two in the division and looked very impressive, Ward said he wanted to go on holiday. When Froch took the fight, Ward said Froch was ducking him LOL

[The Big Dunn]

According to a vote in a poll I made, you don't even rate Wlad in the top 200 heavyweights of all time.

Even most people who hate him rank him higher than that.

Yeah, that was then. Also in that thread what was your specific question?

That's fine with me. I have a very low opinion of wlad, but you know this. Despite that, I fairly rank him relative to the division and where he stands currently in terms of p4p and said he is a sure fire 1st ballot HOF'er.

even you can't question that.

[Beater_of_ass]

I said ward and ggg are doing the same thing and should both be criticized. I never gave ward a pass. The issue is ggg because he is fighting and supposedly doesn't have any opponents to fight.

If you did what you said you would have opponents.

If you are tired of hearing about ward-tell people to stop bringing him up.

Ward and GGG are not doing the same thing, one guy is fighting the other guy is commentating on GGG's fights, big difference. I mean seriously, aside from this last fight with Geale I can remember at least 2 or 3 times where Ward was watching GGG and hasn't been in the ring himself. Ward saw GGG in person and was like f that, once he saw Kovalev and Stevenson he made up his mind he'll just act like he wants to fight them but stay in the division between both threats.

[KingTito]

I like Ward, but I've more or less lost interest at this point. I'd like to see him back in the ring, but if he doesn't fight, whatever. I won't think twice about it.

[Divine Hammer]

ward has forfeited his reign as top super middleweight to carl froch.

carl froch continues to fight like a hero warrior while ward hides like a troll under the bridge.

carl froch #2 p4p