Comments Thread For: Leo Santa Cruz Eyes Frampton-Martinez II Winner

[whoseyourdaddy]

I don't think Russell Jr is a big FW tbh.

How many catch weight did Russell Jr. did before facing Loma? he did around at least 3 that I can count vs TBA type of guys so I think he is a 130 lbs. and should go to that division.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Lol at Leo moving up in weight till 140. He is a big SBW but I don't see his power carrying past 126, tops. He isn't technical enough to box his way up and his style will only lead to an early retirement in the higher weights, especially against men who are in their proper weight class. I like LSC but I just hate the fact that his resume has no name on it that matters, yet he seems content with that. At 126 he won't have many bottom dwellers to munch on and then that's when we will see what he is really made of. Btw Kiko is on a rampage doe, kinda nervous for my boy Frampton but I know we will get the W.

He said it didnt he? All the way up to 140.

I just can't support guys that do what LSC is doing. Its the reason why I stopped supporting Canelo. But hes picked it up so I can't hate.

I can't pick a winner in that fight. In the first one, while I was watching, I thought Kiko was gonna win it late then BOOM! Now, I'm just gonna watch. Not picking a winner in this one.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

How many catch weight did Russell Jr. did before facing Loma? he did around at least 3 that I can count vs TBA type of guys so I think he is a 130 lbs. and should go to that division.

Im not sure about catchweights but he looks tiny to me at 126. Especially next to someone like Lomachenko who indeed is a big FW.

[bojangles1987]

Yeah, man, Rigo could be giving up twenty pounds or more at times. That's just too much, IMO. Some of these guys kill themselves to make weight, seeking a size advantage. Guille probably has a steak and eggs breakfast the day of the weigh-in. lol

That would be an absurd weight disadvantage at so low a weight. Man.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I wouldn't call it sad. It's always been like that. If you had Mares and Santa Cruz in the same division and they both had titles they would take that fight easily over Rigo. Any other fighter in that position would do the same thing because that's where the money is.

No I mean what's sad is that Quigg is marketed as a legit world champion and his eventual fight with Frampton will be sold as a unification when Rigo is the real WBA Champ.

I don't blame Quigg or Frampton for wanting to fight each other. It's the biggest fight for either guy and not a duck

[Aztekkas]

He said it didnt he? All the way up to 140.

I just can't support guys that do what LSC is doing. Its the reason why I stopped supporting Canelo. But hes picked it up so I can't hate.

I can't pick a winner in that fight. In the first one, while I was watching, I thought Kiko was gonna win it late then BOOM! Now, I'm just gonna watch. Not picking a winner in this one.

Frampton looked vicious in that first round but began fading the more the fight wore on. This is due to Kiko's polished pressure. He knows how to hunt a man down and trap him against the ropes to explode combinations to the body before landing a big uppercut. Kiko is freaking underrated around here but I see the heart in him, that motivation that pistons his will to win every night out. Romero was a great win and he did it in a stupendous fashion. Mathebula and Hasegawa are good names as well, and the manner in which he destroyed them is quite telling. Hasegawa and Mathebula looked empty, they didn't seem to have the will to fight anymore, he broke them down in every way. Fighting a man with such determination to hurt you can really make you question yourself, especially when you are launching everything you have and he keeps walking through it as if nothing is felt.

This time around I think Frampton knows what benefits him and what doesn't. Frampton is a great boxer but loves to brawl as well, of course in a more technical manner than Kiko. I believe he will be well prepared and now that he is aware of how truly determined Martinez is in the ring, I believe he will be more poised and composed in the ring. Ultimately he will outbox Kiko until the opportunity arises once again and history will repeat itself. Martinez is too wide when shooting that wide right hand he loves to lead his barrages with, I see him get stopped with a counter.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Frampton looked vicious in that first round but began fading the more the fight wore on. This is due to Kiko's polished pressure. He knows how to hunt a man down and trap him against the ropes to explode combinations to the body before landing a big uppercut. Kiko is freaking underrated around here but I see the heart in him, that motivation that pistons his will to win every night out. Romero was a great win and he did it in a stupendous fashion. Mathebula and Hasegawa are good names as well, and the manner in which he destroyed them is quite telling. Hasegawa and Mathebula looked empty, they didn't seem to have the will to fight anymore, he broke them down in every way. Fighting a man with such determination to hurt you can really make you question yourself, especially when you are launching everything you have and he keeps walking through it as if nothing is felt.

This time around I think Frampton knows what benefits him and what doesn't. Frampton is a great boxer but loves to brawl as well, of course in a more technical manner than Kiko. I believe he will be well prepared and now that he is aware of how truly determined Martinez is in the ring, I believe he will be more poised and composed in the ring. Ultimately he will outbox Kiko until the opportunity arises once again and history will repeat itself. Martinez is too wide when shooting that wide right hand he loves to lead his barrages with, I see him get stopped with a counter.

Not sure how much credit I should give him for beating Hasegawa but he definitely gets props for beating Romero and Mathebula.

The logical choice would be Frampton to win again but I just dunno! Maybe the latino in me wants Kiko to win lol.

[CubanGuyNYC]

If prince naseem hamed(5'4 1/2) could do it, rigo can do it too!!!

Maybe you're right. I didn't realize Hamed was so short. I wonder what Naseem hydrated to. It's certainly possible that he weighed more than Rigo's capable of weighing in the same division. As I already pointed out, Guille walks around at about 122. Regardless, it's a real risky proposition for someone so small. Naseem was a pretty special fighter; but he finally lost to Barrera, one of the top guys in the division at the time. Rigo is probably invincible at 122, but things get interesting at 126. Let's see, maybe "El Chacal" is game. Hey, I'm a big fan of his. I don't want to see Rigo lose just because he was forced to bite off more than he can chew. Everyone except for maybe Wlad Klitschko has their ceiling.

[CubanGuyNYC]

126 would be like swimming in shark infested waters while dragging a dead tuna. One false move and Rigo can really get hurt. However, that's if they can tag Rigo clean. Rigo can outbox damn near anyone from any weight on a pfp setting but once you give up too much height and weight advantage, skills can easily be *****ed with one power shot. I love Rigo but I would like for him to either move back down to his natural weight or remain at 122.. 126 is festered with men who kill themselves to have an advantage on fight night.

Yeah, bro. At some point, skills lose their effectiveness. Rigo hits hard at 122, so guys in that division have gotta respect him, but some of the dudes in the higher divisions might just walk right through his power and KHTFO. I just don't want to see him lose in a some size mismatch. How much sense would it make to watch a lightweight or even a welterweight beat a super-bantamweight?

[Divine Hammer]

How abou rigo.

rigo would obliterate leo santa cruz.