Comments Thread For: Erislandy Lara: De La Hoya Knows Canelo Got a Gift!

[BoxPrep]

Check the compubox for Lara-Trout.

This fight looked a bit like Lara's with Trout minus the KD. Regardless, Lara outclassed canelo, too... but Trout, unlike canelo, brings no money to the table -- go figure.

[BoxPrep]

I said this very thing last night. It's a real turn-off.

I don't think Lara thinks that -- just wants a fair shake. PWill, canelo, even Vanes in the draw, none of those guys thought they won when they fought Lara.

I refuse to align Lara with the Trout's, Malignaggi's, Howard Davis's of the boxing world in terms of punching power, but it's almost as if a fighter that chooses to box and outpoint their opponent, it's frowned upon. Willie Pep can win a round without throwing a punch but Lara can't win a round for throwing and landing jabs and straights because he chooses to do something his opponent can't figure out how to stop?

[CubanGuyNYC]

I don't think Lara thinks that -- just wants a fair shake. PWill, canelo, even Vanes in the draw, none of those guys thought they won when they fought Lara.

I refuse to align Lara with the Trout's, Malignaggi's, Howard Davis's of the boxing world in terms of punching power, but it's almost as if a fighter that chooses to box and outpoint their opponent, it's frowned upon. Willie Pep can win a round without throwing a punch but Lara can't win a round for throwing and landing jabs and straights because he chooses to do something his opponent can't figure out how to stop?

Everyone deserves a fair shake. But life ain't fair, and boxing is even less so. All real men know that. Lara's received some raw deals, I agree; but I know what I sense from this guy, and I don't like it. He was humble as sheep when he asked Canelo for a payday. It was actually embarrassing. The moment he got the fight, Lara started with the nastiness. I defended him for a long time, thinking a lot of it came from DeCubas (which I'm sure some did), but it continued from Lara's own mouth. He even had the hubris to suggest that he did better than Floyd Mayweather against Alvarez. It's just too much now. Lara and his team need to just shut the fuck up and get back to business. Maybe if Lara learns some humility and does what's expected of him he won't lose any more fans, because I'm sure he lost a few of the already little he had after this whole affair.

[northstar]

Everyone deserves a fair shake. But life ain't fair, and boxing is even less so. All real men know that. Lara's received some raw deals, I agree; but I know what I sense from this guy, and I don't like it. He was humble as sheep when he asked Canelo for a payday. It was actually embarrassing. The moment he got the fight, Lara started with the nastiness. I defended him for a long time, thinking a lot of it came from DeCubas (which I'm sure some did), but it continued from Lara's own mouth. He even had the hubris to suggest that he did better than Floyd Mayweather against Alvarez. It's just too much now. Lara and his team need to just shut the fuck up and get back to business. Maybe if Lara learns some humility and does what's expected of him he won't lose any more fans, because I'm sure he lost a few of the already little he had after this whole affair.

You could be absolutely right about Lara and his attitude; he just might be a real *******. I would like to add a little anecdote though.

I have friends and acquaintances that are celebrities; some well known, some d-listers lol. I've noticed that quite a number of these public figures are oblivious to the many different perspectives we as fans/observers are privy to. They're protected by a sort of figurative wall. This wall consists of friends/family/hanger ons; you also have fans and groupies. When they're out and about, people rarely criticize them (even those who don't like them). That's usually the case unless they've done something publicly that was really egregious.

This even extends to social media. Lara's getting tons of messages saying he was robbed. You add all that up, plus other intangibles, you turn a guy who has a few ******* tendencies into a ****.

[CubanGuyNYC]

You could be absolutely right about Lara and his attitude; he just might be a real *******. I would like to add a little anecdote though.

I have friends and acquaintances that are celebrities; some well known, some d-listers lol. I've noticed that quite a number of these public figures are oblivious to the many different perspectives we as fans/observers are privy to. They're protected by a sort of figurative wall. This wall consists of friends/family/hanger ons; you also have fans and groupies. When they're out and about, people rarely criticize them (even those who don't like them). That's usually the case unless they've done something publicly that was really egregious.

This even extends to social media. Lara's getting tons of messages saying he was robbed. You add all that up, plus other intangibles, you turn a guy who has a few ******* tendencies into a ****.

I agree 100%. I understand the phenomena. I can't say I have any celebrity friends, but I've worked around and come into contact with many. A little bubble develops, and people start to lose touch with reality. I don't doubt that some of that is happening with Lara. But I was really referring to the arrogance and nastiness I'm detecting in him. I don't get that from Gamboa, for instance. I don't know what Lara is normally like, but it's tough to get behind a guy like that.

Speaking of Yuri, he got a lot more sympathy in defeat than Lara. Gamboa didn't talk all kinds of trash before the Crawford fight. He fought his heart out and got KTFO. Afterwards, he was humble, despite his cocky persona. And when people started criticizing his team, especially his father, for his loss, Yuri stepped up and defended them. He accepted full responsibility for the loss. Lara has been almost the polar opposite.

[daggum]

I agree 100%. I understand the phenomena. I can't say I have any celebrity friends, but I've worked around and come into contact with many. A little bubble develops, and people start to lose touch with reality. I don't doubt that some of that is happening with Lara. But I was really referring to the arrogance and nastiness I'm detecting in him. I don't get that from Gamboa, for instance. I don't know what Lara is normally like, but it's tough to get behind a guy like that.

Speaking of Yuri, he got a lot more sympathy in defeat than Lara. Gamboa didn't talk all kinds of trash before the Crawford fight. He fought his heart out and got KTFO. Afterwards, he was humble, despite his ****y persona. And when people started criticizing his team, especially his father, for his loss, Yuri stepped up and defended them. He accepted full responsibility for the loss. Lara has been almost the polar opposite.

its easy to be humble when you get ktfo. you basically have no other choice. lara lost a debatable decision that he thinks he won. gamboa doens't think he beat crawford

[CubanGuyNYC]

its easy to be humble when you get ktfo. you basically have no other choice. lara lost a debatable decision that he thinks he won. gamboa doens't think he beat crawford

This is true, but Gamboa wasn't talking ish leading up to the bout, and he fought like a warrior in an important fight. He didn't make excuses and blamed himself for everything that happened.

And, as you say, Lara lost a debatable decision. They're really pushing the robbery angle, and that ****** 117-111 score is giving them ammo.

[northstar]

its easy to be humble when you get ktfo. you basically have no other choice. lara lost a debatable decision that he thinks he won. gamboa doens't think he beat crawford

Getting starched will bring you back to reality.

Boxer's are a funny bunch. To this day I don't think Pernell Whitaker, Bernard Hopkins et al feel they ever lost a fight lol.

That avi is hilarious btw Lmfao

[VicariousVice]

You have no one to blame but yourself Lara.

[Pish Flaps]

If you minimize running around the ring probably I'd listen to your rant.

But for now you need to accept the judges' decisions.