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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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    Originally posted by ErosXero View Post
    There isn't any hard evidence. Only evidence that would suggest it.

    Like classic signs of steroid use:

    Enlarged cranium ( your head dont' start randomly growing at age 30)
    Muscle Spasms ( Pac frequently gets em)
    Increased speed, strength, stamina ( self explanatory)


    Now the bottom two, can be a result of working out too hard, dehydration, and hard work. But enlarged cranium....your head doesn't grow at age 30. males stop growing at age 24. Pacs head looks enormous compared to his younger days. Just look at pictures.

    Now. All this being said, it's STILL NOT evidence. It's all merely circumstantial, but suggests that he does use PEDS.

    One last thing worth mentioning. Again, this DOESN'T prove anything, but even pac fans gotta admit, that in the midst of TRUCKING through elite fighters with ease, it's su****ious as **** to dodge OSDT.

    Then when he's open to drug testing, suddenly, he's slower, weaker, less shredded, and hasn't KO'd anyone since.

    Again. It's all circumstantial, and proves nothing. But certainly, you can't give anyone **** for believing such accusations under said circumstances.
    Another floydiot alt. Got you!

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      Is this **** STILL going on.

      Of course Pac has used steroids. But MOST top boxers use steroids, it is 2014! I'm sure Floyd hasn't always been clean. I don't see no "natural" boxing circuit.

      Of course Floyd used the excuse of drug testing, mandating his required method in order to get out of the fight.

      The Floyd duck of Pacquiao is the second biggest duck of all time right after Rid**** Bowe and Lewis!

      FACT!

      flom o's, the 2nd most ******ed fans after the old timers!

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        For those who believe in the 'big head' theory.....which other fighters have had major head grow suddenly?
        Or other athletes from different sports that have been caught using PED's?

        Honest question.

        And another thought...
        How long did pac refuse to random testing since he was first accused?
        I was just thinking, if you were accused, would you continue to use PED's for your next few fights?
        Lets say he was taking them, did Pac really refuse random testing because he wanted to continue taking the PED's?
        Couldnt he just have taken the tests and fought Floyd?
        Or is the theory that he relied on PED's so much he felt without them he stood no chance of winning.

        Pac doesnt seem like a fighter scared of losing based on his resume.
        Last edited by The Noose; 07-03-2014, 08:18 AM.

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          Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post
          But...

          why would he agree to urine analysis if he was juicing?

          You do realise urine tests are more reliable for PED detection right?
          If this were the case why is every major sports league in the world instituting testing that is far superior than urinalysis?

          Why don't vada and usada utilize just urine?

          Why would they need to utilize hair and blood testing in major corporations?

          Of all the testing methods, which is the easiest to beat?

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            Originally posted by Elroy1 View Post
            Is this **** STILL going on.

            Of course Pac has used steroids. But MOST top boxers use steroids, it is 2014! I'm sure Floyd hasn't always been clean. I don't see no "natural" boxing circuit.

            Of course Floyd used the excuse of drug testing, mandating his required method in order to get out of the fight.

            The Floyd duck of Pacquiao is the second biggest duck of all time right after Rid**** Bowe and Lewis!

            FACT!

            flom o's, the 2nd most ******ed fans after the old timers!
            another great point! im sure pac is not the only one juicing so why is it that only pac has a huge head then LOL. other boxers who were caught or came out and admit that they were on peds never had the speed that manny has, so why is that? i mean if they're all taking peds shouldnt they all perform in a similar way?

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              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              If this were the case why is every major sports league in the world instituting testing that is far superior than urinalysis?

              Why don't vada and usada utilize just urine?

              Why would they need to utilize hair and blood testing in major corporations?

              Of all the testing methods, which is the easiest to beat?
              although i agree blood is more superior, if ur on something urine will be able to detect it also, its not like pac is this genius scientist or something LOL.. this is the same guy who signed a deal with TR then went and had a meeting with oscar and u're gonna tell me this dude have the time and brains to out smart the testing agency whos job is to catch the cheater? LOL

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                Originally posted by The Noose View Post
                For those who believe in the 'big head' theory.....which other fighters have had major head grow suddenly?
                Or other athletes from different sports that have been caught using PED's?

                Honest question.

                And another thought...
                How long did pac refuse to random testing since he was first accused?
                I was just thinking, if you were accused, would you continue to use PED's for your next few fights?
                Lets say he was taking them, did Pac really refuse random testing because he wanted to continue taking the PED's?
                Couldnt he just have taken the tests and fought Floyd?
                Or is the theory that he relied on PED's so much he felt without them he stood no chance of winning.

                Pac doesnt seem like a fighter scared of losing based on his resume.


                barry bonds' head got freaking massive.

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                  in all honesty if pac was really on something he would have slipped up by now.. i mean this dude has a new face on his team in every training camp! if he was on something he would have slipped by now. he cant juggle between training, politician, and trying to cheat the system and not slip once at all. come on now.

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                    i mean just look at all the other big names who got caught.. they either got caught because they failed a test or got ratted out. and u're telling me manny has been juicing for close to 10 years without a single slip up?

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                      Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      another great point! im sure pac is not the only one juicing so why is it that only pac has a huge head then LOL. other boxers who were caught or came out and admit that they were on peds never had the speed that manny has, so why is that? i mean if they're all taking peds shouldnt they all perform in a similar way?
                      Thanks. Not to sound corny to a basher, but Manny genuinely is a supreme athletic machine, fast, powerful, fit, without steroids too (duh). The main reason for his success is because he is damn good.

                      And the main reason behind any would be PED's use would be the same as every boxer faces. A lot of THEM are/might be on it!

                      Imagine being on the pro circuit, with other fighters on the stuff. They are able to train longer and harder than ever before and recover quicker to do more frequently. They don't get as fatigued or sick or injured as they would if they tried to maintain that level of training without it. The motivation to use in light of what your competition is now is strong.

                      And this also applies to other sports too, the difference in boxing is that your not just losing a game, losing means getting your lights punched out and physical damage, often to the most important areas.

                      My view is that they don't use them all the time but they do use often enough.

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