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Let's say in ~15 years ESPN does a 30 for 30 on Pacquiao and Mayweather...

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    #51
    Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
    What revelations would you want revealed? What questions should be asked? Let's have fun with this and be intellectual, or at least serious. Please no f.cking trolls.
    HBO has a partnership with ESPN so if they produce the documentary it would be slanted one way.

    If any objective, independent entity produced a documentary on the lack of this fight happeneing, it would most surely place equal blame on both fighters, unless they uncovered evidence that squarely placed blame on one camp.

    I for one want to now if the email that Atlas and Tim Smith swear they saw was in fact true. I would also love it if they had a recording of the $40 mil, no ppv offer conversation.

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      #52
      I will like to know how George Peterson (former associate of Al Haymon) knew waaaay back then that a Floyd/Pac fight will never happen.

      His exact quote was: "The fight will never happen. It will never happen. Some fights aren't meant to be made and this is one of those fights"

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        #53
        Originally posted by FrankieClutch View Post
        That's a great question!! In Uncle Bob's mind, however, I think he really wanted that stadium lol (instead of just making the fight happen in a huge soccer stadium)
        I don't think Arum cared about a stadium. He didn't want the fight.

        the biggest fights nowadays are almost always in vegas casinos, not large stadiums.

        Because even with less in attendance, they can still outbid larger stadiums. They make so much $$$ from the "high-rollers" and degenerate gamblers.

        Now for the biggest money fight ever, Arum decides he wants something different?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Awesome-O View Post
          Same here.

          Also about the rumors of Floyd's failed drug tests and the details of the settlement.
          That would be hilarious if one of these days some disgruntled individual from Money Mayweather's camp reveals about his dependence on peds. Hehe... a guy accusing someone of taking peds turned out to be the worst offender. Just imagine a ped user demanding strict testing. Hehe...

          Where there's smoke there's fire. hehe....

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            #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            $40m for Pacquiao in 2011 makes plenty of sense since he's not carrying the risk. What more does he want? He turned down 50-50 across the board 1-2 years earlier.
            Clearly you have no business sense. having no share of the PPV profit is ******. Pac was SMART to say no.

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              #56
              It would end in a face to face hug out with Floyd telling Pacquiao why he avoided the fight.

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                #57
                After the first failed couple of negotiations, I'm pretty they have been in collaboration all along, the plan is the make this fight 2016 after Floyd's contract runs out with showtime. Floyd sr, Freddie roach and bob arum have said it. It will be both fighter's last fight and expect both fighters to cherry pick their way to 2016 so as to avoid any losses.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
                  Clearly you have no business sense. having no share of the PPV profit is ******. Pac was SMART to say no.
                  Sure. And the 50-50 split....he was smart to say no to that too, right?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by smoothsmg View Post
                    Never flat, thats just what internet community wants to state. Floyd, Manny, Koncz, and I believe Ariza have all said 40 million was the guarantee, but Manny either hung up the phone after saying 50/50 or nothing or gave the phone to Koncz. Never flat and no back end was discussed.
                    Your just making **** up now. Here is a direct quote from Floyd after the $40 million offer

                    "Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr. told Bob Costas on the NBC Sports show “Costas Tonight” last Sunday that he would not budge on the issue of the revenue split a potential Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight would bring in.

                    "I tried to get it done for May 5th. It would have been Mayweather versus Pacquiao but I got turned down….How my deal is structured at this particular time in the sport of boxing, I keep 100 percent of the revenue. So why would I even give a guy 50-50 if I'm out there? I come first, self-preservation. I put myself first… I'm in the game to win, not just in the ring, but outside the ring. And my health is more important than anything."

                    And even after that Ellerbe confirmed as well that it would be a $40 million flat rate, no PPV upside.
                    I agree with those that say that Pac turned down the first offer, if he said yes to the test we would have had the fight in 2010 but he walked away and deserves to take **** for that. But Floyd clearly didn't want the fight due to the risk, ego, or whatever. Both guys deserve the blame.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
                      That would be hilarious if one of these days some disgruntled individual from Money Mayweather's camp reveals about his dependence on peds. Hehe... a guy accusing someone of taking peds turned out to be the worst offender. Just imagine a ped user demanding strict testing. Hehe...

                      Where there's smoke there's fire. hehe....
                      If either pac or Floyd are cheating this is how they will be caught. They have so many hanger ons that once the money well dries up there will be no incentive to protect them and at that point its only logical somebody will try to cash out by ratting on them. Thats IF either one is juicing.

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