Meh, it's a mandatory defence. Leapai gave it his best shot and got the financial reward his work getting into that position entitled him to. Wlad did what he was supposed to do. If those who bought tickets went home happy, who are we to argue?
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Originally posted by Enzo Mc is **** View PostMeh, it's a mandatory defence. Leapai gave it his best shot and got the financial reward his work getting into that position entitled him to. Wlad did what he was supposed to do. If those who bought tickets went home happy, who are we to argue?
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We should all take a moment and remember Manny Steward for installing the defensive wizardry to add to Wlad's wrecking machine offense. This is an example of a complete fighter, hit and don't get hit....get the KO, show skills and movement. If Wlad fought like this all the time, i'm sure we all agree he would be getting far less hate. But to those haters that devote their lives to Wlad-bashing...I suppose there's only one thing to say...
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Originally posted by PainfromUkraine View PostWe should all take a moment and remember Manny Steward for installing the defensive wizardry to add to Wlad's wrecking machine offense. This is an example of a complete fighter, hit and don't get hit....get the KO, show skills and movement. If Wlad fought like this all the time, i'm sure we all agree he would be getting far less hate. But to those haters that devote their lives to Wlad-bashing...I suppose there's only one thing to say...
It would be nice if the sanctioning bodies (somehow) mandated fights between the HW contenders, so they'd be better prepared/be considered 'credible' opponents for Wlad.
Feel for the guy. He deserves more respect.
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Originally posted by BoxingFan82 View PostWilder, from what I understand, played football and basketball in high school. I believe he was a wide receiver and forward. Those are positions that require a fair bit of athleticism. Furthermore, you can look at Wilder's frame. He has the type of lean muscle you don't often see on heavyweights, particularly those his size.
Again, nobody reasonable is going to disagree with the argument that Wilder still has a lot to prove and hasn't been tested, but what's the point of dismissing or ignoring fighters with potential? Boxing is a lot more interesting and exciting when you watch the guys who might have what it takes to get to the top before they get to the top.
I am also not completely dismissing Wilder. I am just not all that impressed with someone knocking out a slew of fighters who tend to lose a lot. And that is not even taking into account that his best win was against his friend Malik who was ranked somewhere around 35th in the world and may have even possibly taken a dive in the fight. And until Wilder himself proves me wrong I will stick with my opinion.
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Originally posted by Ravens Fan View PostSo, Wilder has great athleticism because you believe he played high school sports. Really? And he also looks the part so he has to be for real. If we are going by looks my vote goes to Shannon Briggs to be the next great heavyweight. Because I saw him with his shirt off the other day and he looks to be in great shape.
I am also not completely dismissing Wilder. I am just not all that impressed with someone knocking out a slew of fighters who tend to lose a lot. And that is not even taking into account that his best win was against his friend Malik who was ranked somewhere around 35th in the world and may have even possibly taken a dive in the fight. And until Wilder himself proves me wrong I will stick with my opinion.
We both clearly agree that whether Wilder's athleticism translates into success at the highest levels of boxing remains to be seen. It doesn't always. Just look at Seth Mitchell. But sometimes it does. Consider Sergio Martinez. He's a very talented athlete who would have been a professional cyclist or soccer player if it wasn't for chance. And by the way, Sergio Martinez's first 30 wins weren't against the most impressive opposition either.
Final thought: I dislike the hype trains that are so common in boxing as much as anyone else. I'll roll my eyes at anybody who says without doubt that Wilder is the next great heavyweight just as I rolled my eyes at all the fans who thought Canelo was going to walk through Floyd. But you don't have to buy into the hype to acknowledge up-and-coming fighters with potential. Personally, I think it's more fun to watch boxing's best prospects with intrigue rather than cynicism.
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Originally posted by BoxingFan82 View PostWilder's track record in other sports and physical attributes make it fairly easy to conclude that he has a certain level of athleticism. If you want to question whether a 6'7" fighter who carries ~215 pounds of lean muscle and played wide receiver and forward before picking up boxing is a pure athlete, feel free, but you look silly.
We both clearly agree that whether Wilder's athleticism translates into success at the highest levels of boxing remains to be seen. It doesn't always. Just look at Seth Mitchell. But sometimes it does. Consider Sergio Martinez. He's a very talented athlete who would have been a professional cyclist or soccer player if it wasn't for chance. And by the way, Sergio Martinez's first 30 wins weren't against the most impressive opposition either.
Final thought: I dislike the hype trains that are so common in boxing as much as anyone else. I'll roll my eyes at anybody who says without doubt that Wilder is the next great heavyweight just as I rolled my eyes at all the fans who thought Canelo was going to walk through Floyd. But you don't have to buy into the hype to acknowledge up-and-coming fighters with potential. Personally, I think it's more fun to watch boxing's best prospects with intrigue rather than cynicism.
After all a 6'7" 215 wide receiver that has the great athleticism that you are speaking of should have gotten someones attention. Or was he simply a decent high school athlete who wasn't good enough to take it to the next level like the other thousands upon thousands of high school athletes that fit that description?
I will even give him the benefit of the doubt because he may have actually been a great high school athlete. But it sure as hell did not seem to carry to the next level. So, does that mean he just had great high school athleticism?
This is actually getting a tad ridiculous and simply put I believe you are giving him way to much credit for playing high school sports and for being lean. And you say I am the one that looks silly? That is laughable.
I will also say it again I don't really care what kind of athlete Wilder happens to be or how good his frame looks. Because other then proving he can knock out a nice collection of stiffs in 31 fights he has proved little to me. As they say the book is still wide open and in my opinion until he does something more impressive his career is still a one huge question mark?????????
By the way I believe Sergio Martinez is one of the most overrated fighters in recent history. And I even consider myself a fan of Maravilla. However, that argument is for another day.
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Originally posted by Ravens Fan View PostWait, you first said you believe he played high school sports now you are mentioning his track record. Okay what exactly is his track record in other sports? Did he play football or basketball at any Division 1 or 2 or even a Division 3 college? Was he recruited by any colleges or did he have any scholarship offers?
After all a 6'7" 215 wide receiver that has the great athleticism that you are speaking of should have gotten someones attention. Or was he simply a decent high school athlete who wasn't good enough to take it to the next level like the other thousands upon thousands of high school athletes that fit that description?
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Originally posted by TLC8 View PostWhy not? Bhop has forgotten more about Boxing than most try to grasp in a career. He fears nobody and don't think for a second he could not come up with a strategy to beat either Klitschko.
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