Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[TIGERPRIDE]

As a fan of the sport....I say why should we have to pressure a fighter....There wasnt a need to pressure anyone, because this fight was already to go until some dumb arse named Pac let his BOSS put a battery in his back and mind fcuked is entire fan base.

[AboutBillions]

I edited the Opening Post of the thread, with ATG replies so far.

[mourinho1]

Who gives a flying fck who was the first vagina to back off. Since the first negotiations fell off this two have been using each others name to promote their fights and fill their own pockets fighting nothing but mismatches. And funny how their fan base eats it up and goes back to square one to argue why they haven't fought each other yet. How about instead of arguing with each other over the same dumba$$ trivial points you guys instead should put pressure on theim to fight each other. I know most of you guys have twitter and all that ****. Go full ******ed and demand theim to fight. Fck em both

good point!

the solution would be to boycot both their fights, but there is no one to lead the sheep so that wont be succesfull(joking)
second no twitter and no Facebook or IG.

On the other hand i'm really really really looking forward to FMJ main card it will probably be the best card of the year from a stars line-up perspective. I dont know how evenly matched all the fights are tho'. I also wanna see FMJ being the or one of the best promoters show everyone how you hype up a fight!!! In MMA chael sonnen can do it. I wanna know if FMJ and Maidana's showtime stuff will change the negative way the public sees it at the moment. The betting odds and turning down Khan. I wanna see if he can hype everyone to get eager to watch his fight. He's supposed to be a good promoter/hyper...

[Ruthless One]

Really????? A highly negative not???? Ok look this has got to stop. Stop making manny feel as though he was some battered lil beotch and he was ****d or something then asked to face his rapist. He was looked at as being abnormal to a potential opponent. They said he looked and seemed as if he could be on something...I am paraphrasing or whatever...if anything Pac should have took that as a compliment signed the damn papers to a CRAZY PAY DAY ALL AT THE SAME TIME SHOWING THE WORLD HE WAS CLEAN AND LAID HANDS ON FLOYD BUT NO. HE USED IT TO HIS ADVANTAGE OR BOB USED IT TO STALL THE PROCESS. MISS ME WITH THE WHOLE "WHO WOULD NEGOTIATE AFTER ALL THE NEGATIVE BLAH BLAH...". MAN THE FCUK UP!

Chill. You're basically repeating what I just said (in regards to the fact that Pac should have just taken the tests and gotten it over with, instead of being prideful). Anyway, about negotiations starting on a negative note: It's the same with Mayweather. Can you get Mayweather to cooperate with Arum/Pac if he is being insulted? You answer that.

[TIGERPRIDE]

This is deeper than alot of people can even fathom...
Think about it, all the Pac Stans said "Pac is ATG and he will be held higher than Mayweather because he didnt duck the fight" REMEMBER THIS?
A few ATG boxers said they thought Mayweather was scared to fight based on the bullcrap Team Pac and Bob Arum was stirring in the pot..REMEMBER THIS?
One has to think, DOES THIS DISCREDIT ALL OF MAYWEATHERS DISCREDITORS? HMMMMM

[El Malo.]

lol you must be new here it does matter because all the nutjob Pac stans were saying it was Mayweather fault and attacking anyone who didn't agree with them

And we should give two shts what they think or what Mayweather fans think? I'm here to watch real competitive boxing not trying to win someone's ******ed approval. Let them think what they want and lets talk boxing. You both have been arguing the same sht for 4 years and nothing has come off it. Its like you guys are trying to win the ****** award and so far both of you guys are tied for first place. Move on and talk boxing

[arraamis]

Arum wanted it to be LAST fight = He would do everything in his power to block it. = Why Floyd don't want Arum involved.

Can't wait for his bio book. "Freddie tells it all"

Freddie Roach blames Pacquiao on Mayweather fight not happening 4 years ago. He all believes that Arum always wanted the Mayweather Pacquiao fight to be Pacquiao's last fight which in other words, Arum and Pacquiao is the reason we never seen this fight.

ATG Replies: - throughout the thread of immense excuses here's some replies worth reading.

Nice!!!!

[solo20]

And we should give two shts what they think or what Mayweather fans think? I'm here to watch real competitive boxing not trying to win someone's ******ed approval. Let them think what they want and lets talk boxing. You both have been arguing the same sht for 4 years and nothing has come off it. Its like you guys are trying to win the ****** award and so far both of you guys are tied for first place. Move on and talk boxing

you are barking up the wrong tree here iam with NO ONE iam a boxing fan not a fan of a man nuts. Iam just pointing out what was going on here with both groups and if you didn't give a dam you wouldn't be posting IN HERE PERIOD

[AP♠]

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[Holywarrior]

Pacquiao was the A-side in the first negotiation, you think he's going to bend to Mayweather's will after all the PED accusations they were throwing at him? When all was said and done Pacquiao agreed to all of Mayweather's demands and the fight still didn't happen.

Even if Pac was the A side, he got everything he wanted and they still ran and sued.