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    #21
    Originally posted by Phenom View Post
    just stop it man that undercard ****s all over the undercard put on Saturday and Arum puts on Main events of guys that were KO'd or lost in their last fight remember Lopez vs Solido? Garcia vs Burgos ? Cotto vs Margarito II? Chavez vs Lyell? I could keep posting if you like
    I disagree. I don't think it "****'s all over it", when you consider there are two mismatches and 1 competitive fight on there. As far as name value of course it blows out Top Ranks card. But Molina vs. Broner is an embarrassment. Maidana vs. Mayweather is a huge mismatch when you consider how easily Alexander dispatched of Maidana. Although Maidana worked his way up to the title shot the hard way. Khan vs. Collazo is the most competitive fight on there.

    The Top rank card had lower name value, but it had 3 competitive fights. The main event was way more competitive going in.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
      None of those fights were on PPV, thats the whole point

      And none of the undercard on May 3rd are anywhere near as competitive as the card on Pac-Bradley 2

      Don't take my word for it, just look up the odds for the fights. These guys are experts when it comes to seeing missmatches and they have 2 different fights where the favorite is greater than a 10-1 which is a disgrace on PPV.

      No one on the Pac undercard was greater than a 3 to 1

      Only in boxing can you have "boxing fans" that don't wanna see the best fight the best
      Hey bob dont got no room to talk this happen

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        #23
        Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
        Bob is always trying to fight everybody. For no reason.
        Bob knows that Pac can walk away from him next year, that is why he is running his mouth he wants a big payday on the back of FMW. Pac would be crazy not to walk that is the only way this fight happens.

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          #24
          Everyone is saying Pacquiao vs. Bradley is more competitive, but they aren't saying why. If Bradley is more competitive than Maidaina, and Maidaina has done WAY better at 147 than Bradley, then it is only competitive because Manny isn't as good as Floyd. We all know that Pacquiao vs. Marquez 5 will be competitive. But we also know that Mayweather vs. Marquez 2 would not be as competitive. Why because WE EXPECT Floyd to destroy Marquez. Bradley has not dome much at WW. He didn't win the first fight. He almost got knopcked by Ruslan, and that was Ruslan's first WW fight. Bradley is the just NICE GUY VERSION OF BRONER.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
            name 1 fight when Pacquiao was a -1000 to win

            name 1 fight that Arum put on that had a -1900 against a guy who hasn't fought in 17 months and was KO'd in his last fight on the undercard
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            Well maybe the people who makes those odds do so cuz they know what they are watching, maybe Floyd is always a huge favorite no matter who he fights because the oddsmakers KNOW Floyd is THAT good and they wanna protect their money....and on the other hand maybe they don't think Manny is that good and hence why the odds are so close....

            You make it seem like Floyd is fighting bums and Manny is fighting gladiators
            Floyd's last 4 opponents: Maidana, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,
            Pacquiaos last 4 opponents: Bradley, Rios, JMM, Bradley

            Canelo would KO all Pacquiaos opponents and Pacquiao included
            And the rest are all toss up fights with the exception of Rios, he beats none of them but he will be 50/50 vs Ortiz..

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ericd314 View Post
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              Well maybe the people who makes those odds do so cuz they know what they are watching, maybe Floyd is always a huge favorite no matter who he fights because the oddsmakers KNOW Floyd is THAT good and they wanna protect their money....and on the other hand maybe they don't think Manny is that good and hence why the odds are so close....

              You make it seem like Floyd is fighting bums and Manny is fighting gladiators
              Floyd's last 4 opponents: Maidana, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,
              Pacquiaos last 4 opponents: Bradley, Rios, JMM, Bradley

              Canelo would KO all Pacquiaos opponents and Pacquiao included
              And the rest are all toss up fights with the exception of Rios, he beats none of them but he will be 50/50 vs Ortiz..
              I'm glad that you replied to that fool! Well said my man!

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                #27
                Lyle you are an asset to the boxing community. However, I see you as a bit off on this one. As the cliche goes... styles makes fights. Floyd picks the guys that are good for his style. Pac has been taking fights, in terms of styles that Floyd wouldn't touch. Arum obviously would benefit a great deal in making Pac vs Floyd. It would break every single fight record in terms of finance in boxing history. Floyd knows this. If its all about the "Money" then why not make the fight? Floyd will not be challenged by Manny, but yet something is rotten? Pac fought Cotto, Hatton, DLH, Mosely, Marg, to tell everyone ... I deserve a Floyd fight. Without any question he earned it! Floyd let an opportunity slip by and it hasn't paid off yet.
                I know there are a number of people who don't want to see Floyd fight Pac, but I believe the overwhelming majority want it soon. Both guys are on the down side of their careers and this fight no doubt should have been made 3 or 4 years ago. It is a shame. Bob Arum has every right to complain as the rest of the boxing world. If and when the fight happens Floyd can't win in the court of public opinion because he waited to long and fought a fading Manny Pacquiao. It will be a stain on his legacy.

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                  #28
                  Dude just ether'd the entire P@ct@rd Nation

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ericd314 View Post
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                    Well maybe the people who makes those odds do so cuz they know what they are watching, maybe Floyd is always a huge favorite no matter who he fights because the oddsmakers KNOW Floyd is THAT good and they wanna protect their money....and on the other hand maybe they don't think Manny is that good and hence why the odds are so close....

                    You make it seem like Floyd is fighting bums and Manny is fighting gladiators
                    Floyd's last 4 opponents: Maidana, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz,
                    Pacquiaos last 4 opponents: Bradley, Rios, JMM, Bradley

                    Canelo would KO all Pacquiaos opponents and Pacquiao included
                    And the rest are all toss up fights with the exception of Rios, he beats none of them but he will be 50/50 vs Ortiz..
                    Are you freakin serious?

                    Floyd would be at most a 3-1 favorite against Pacquiao or Bradley

                    And I see 3 outta 4 top 10 P4P guys in Pacs last 4 fights.

                    On floyd's I see -

                    a 10/1 underdog
                    a 23 year old who had to fight at a catchweight and could only eat cucumbers for dinner and was paid 5 million to take it easy
                    Guerrerro who skipped a 140, beat Berto (who freakin sucks) and thats it at 147
                    And Ortiz - no comment here neccessary

                    Rios beats everyone here easy including a weight drained Canelo

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                      #30
                      When he is gone the sport will be better. Hes truly a cancer to boxing.

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