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    #41
    So Hatton just said what Danny Garcia said

    Hatton talks from experience, but dumb ****s in here will try to discredit him

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      #42
      Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
      Why is it that Marcos Maidana is viewed as a great opponent for any Welter Weight not named Floyd? Why? Why is it ok if Tim Bradley fought Marcos but not ok for Floyd?
      Because Floyd is not just "any welter weight." He should be held to the highest of standards when choosing/fighting opponents, that's why.

      So if Timothy Bradley fought Marcos, that can't possibly be viewed the same way as Floyd/Marcos. Floyd is planets away from Bradley in skills, so you can't compare them. I don't know how else to put it.

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        #43
        Originally posted by simms601 View Post
        Why does everyone keep comparing Khan to Judah? Judah is a southpaw, that's what bothered Floyd the most. Had he been an orthodoxed fighter I'm sure he would have taken the fight to him sooner. Plus Judah has better footwork and is more atheletic than Khan as well. His movement is more fluent. I don't get this at all. And this coming from the same Hatton that side Alavarez would cause Mayweather problems. And we're now suppose to listen to him give us advice on Amir Khan? GTFOH
        I dont know why people keep saying Judah gave Floyd problems. I Don't know what fight they saw. Zab started out good because he was active (first 2 or 3 rounds), but he was far from giving Floyd problems. Second half of the fight he was well on his way to getting KOed.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Supreme75 View Post
          Because Floyd is not just "any welter weight." He should be held to the highest of standards when choosing/fighting opponents, that's why.

          So if Timothy Bradley fought Marcos, that can't possibly be viewed the same way as Floyd/Marcos. Floyd is planets away from Bradley in skills, so you can't compare them. I don't know how else to put it.
          just checking to see who was man enough to admit that there is a double standard and that Floyd is expected to do things no other Welter Weight is asked to do to please you. I think it's bull shit, but whatever. Marcos is an easy win, but the man is the WBA Champion at the weight. How is a man scrutinized for fighting Champion after Champion, after Champion, after Champion. Name me one active fighter who's fighting title holders back to back to back to back like Floyd is. But he's the cherry picker. Lara and Garcia are next.

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            #45
            Ricky's right on the spot about Floyd picking the easier fight. In truth, Brits give Floyd too much credit.

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              #46
              Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
              just checking to see who was man enough to admit that there is a double standard and that Floyd is expected to do things no other Welter Weight is asked to do to please you. I think it's bull shit, but whatever. Marcos is an easy win, but the man is the WBA Champion at the weight. How is a man scrutinized for fighting Champion after Champion, after Champion, after Champion. Name me one active fighter who's fighting title holders back to back to back to back like Floyd is. But he's the cherry picker. Lara and Garcia are next.
              Listen, Floyd is the best in our (at least mine, I'm 39), generation. So yeah, there is definitely a double standard because you want to see him fight the best fighters available in the division, or wherever he's champion.

              Now WHO's the best fighter available, is subject to anyone's opinion. Bottom line man, there ain't much to choose from in welterweight in terms of "possible" tough fights for Floyd. Pickings are slim.

              That is why people, at least me, were saying challenge someone else up at JMW again (where he's champion). Canelo got his shot and, like you said, maybe Lara can get it. But look I have absolutely no problem admitting there is a double standard when it comes to Floyd and I feel it should be. He's the best, get's paid ungodly amounts per fight, undefeated, all that. So hell no he shouldn't be fighting what is looked at as a "cherry pick" FOR HIM. But on the other hand, the welterweight division is not stacked like it was, in say, the early to mid 2000's or 90's. It's just not, so he's fighting what's leftover after all the dust has settled. Doesn't mean I cosign it.
              Last edited by Supreme75; 02-28-2014, 11:21 AM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
                Why is it that Marcos Maidana is viewed as a great opponent for any Welter Weight not named Floyd? Why? Why is it ok if Tim Bradley fought Marcos but not ok for Floyd?
                Because Floyd has taken it easy for many years, either taking years and years off with layoffs or only fighting once every 18months mostly. So when he does fight people expect him to deliver that much more. Bradley is fighting Pac and JMM of this world back to back so hes not even aiming as low as Floyd is doing so don't even go down the theoretical road with your nonsense.
                Bradley isn't fighting Maidana, Floyd is so don't twist. Bradley wont get is fighting Pac so don't try taking the heat off of Floyd. Floyd chose his path so will live with consequences.

                Originally posted by Supreme75 View Post
                Because Floyd is not just "any welter weight." He should be held to the highest of standards when choosing/fighting opponents, that's why.

                So if Timothy Bradley fought Marcos, that can't possibly be viewed the same way as Floyd/Marcos. Floyd is planets away from Bradley in skills, so you can't compare them. I don't know how else to put it.
                Don't even put Bradley in the same sentence as Floyd. Bradley will have fought Pac twice before long. Floyd is criticised for the reasons above in that he has taken it easy for long enough, its time to get down to business and not cherry picking easier opponents than Miguel Cotto fighting Sergio, and Bradley fighting Pac.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 02-28-2014, 12:02 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View Post
                  C'mon man....anybody who doesn't think this is a mismatch has an agenda...and anybody Floyd fights is a mismatch with the exception of MAYBE 1 or 2 fighters.....both of those fighters are TR and HBO promoted....cold war casualties have to accept the fact certain fights won't happen

                  Hatton got it twisted though....Maidana might get stopped....this is the opponent that gets Gatti'd....Khan would've lost as well but it would've been similar to the Cotto fight imo....if you can't hit Floyd with a JAB you won't be able to hit him with anything else...we've been through this a million times on here....the key to troubling Floyd is to disrupt his rhythm....jab his ass to death....when we had to pick fighters we thought could beat Floyd.....Tommy Hearns and Vernon Forrest was the 2 leading vote getters if I remember correctly!!

                  Dedicated jabbers....Hoya had success but once he got buckled his hoe ass tucked that gun back in his bra and left a apple on Floyd's desk....like a good student!!

                  Khan has the tools to trouble Floyd at times....not the tools to beat him.....I think that's where people get it twisted....I know Castillo gave Floyd hell with a certain style, but Floyd has evolved as fighter and that style is now heaven....so many fighters have tried to implement that plan into their playbook and each time they came up short.....I'm not advocating for Khan to get the fight over Chino....that would be ******, Khan hasn't done **** to deserve it

                  just wanna clear the misconception on here about this Floyd Maidana Khan saga....I don't think Khan or any other WW on the planet can beat Floyd....but there's a few who would give him something to solve....IMO Khan is one of them
                  the bold is hilarious

                  but to the op, khan does not have the style to even remotely bother mayweather

                  khan is one of the worst inside fighters of anyone at this level. floyd would cut him off, put him in the pocket, and destroy him on the inside ... and all that shoving ***** khan did against peterson wouldnt fly against floyd at 147

                  easy work

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by martin_1995 View Post
                    Didnt maidanna lost to khan?. I'm i right? Was it another maidana? Can anyone tell me? If true, why would anyone be interested in this fight? Why not khan who beat maydana? Why not lara? Or martinez? I'm confuse here, can anyone tell me why?
                    Yes, Khan beat Maidana in 2012, but it was very close. Kahn dropped Maidana with a liver punch in the first round and boxed well for most of the fight (when he wasn't running). However, Maidana never stopped trying and hurt Khan badly in round 10. the score was 111-114 on two judge's cards, and 112-113 on the third's card. Maidana also was penalized 1 point in the fifth for throwing an elbow.


                    Since then, Khan has looked bad with a recent razor-thin win while getting hurt, won 2 TDs on cuts and suffered a couple of losses. He has won one and lost one by KO. Maidana has won 4 fights by KO, an UD and MD win, lost only once, and won the belt by beating Broner convincingly. Maidana has simply been doing better than Kahn lately, and Khan has a suspect chin. . Click on Khan's name on Maidana's record to see his record.

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                      #50
                      Yes.

                      Excellent post. Floyd knows that although Khan has been chinny in the past, he is a pain to fight. Khan had a chance to win a decision against Floyd if he's gotten more responsible, defensively. Floyd had a puncher's chance against Khan. It would've been an interesting fight and the fight that we should be getting. Floyd is a bully, a coward, and his past is catching up with him. He is afraid of losing and that's WHY he selected Maidana. Everyone calls him great, he calls himself the greatest ever, but how do you become the greatest? By fighting the best available competition. You have to take risks against fighters who the people and experts say can beat you. How many times has this man done that? He retired in his prime after beating Ricky Hatton. Ricky Hatton! Hahaha. What a joke this guy is.

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