Official Mayweather vs Maidana Master Discussion & Postfight Analysis Thread

[Jimmy 23]

[dc3383]

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Lets put this bluntly

who has mayweather fought lately with Maidana's intangibles? He is a seasoned pro and the man's will has literally never been broken in the ring. Canelo..green. cotto.. been stopped.. guerrerro, quit before, Ortiz blaah.. mosley Forrest...Marquez..

I guess its Marquez. But Marquez was new to that weight and isnt comfortable pressuring.

Maidana is a unique blend of power, pressure, and amazing intangibles. Yall can count him out but I will not do so until the final bell rings.

Who has Maidana fought on the same level as Floyd; lets be honest other Ortiz Maidana more than likely loses to all then and is 50/50 with Guerrero.

[milkroot]

Who has Maidana fought on the same level as Floyd; lets be honest other Ortiz Maidana more than likely loses to all then and is 50/50 with Guerrero.

If you're talking about boxing skills and world class opposition...

Devon Alexander has good boxing skills, athleticism, speed, toughness, heart, etc. So did Amir Khan at the time he fought El Chino. That Khan was in his prime with Alex Ariza in his corner.

Mayweather -- as good as he is -- is a lot of media hype. I'm not dissing Floyd. But other fighters get downplayed. Some of Maidana's recent opposition have been very good and at very good stages in their careers!

Case in point...

Mayweather himself said that Devon Alexander was a frontrunner to fight him on his Showtime debut. This was before he chose Robert Guerrero.

Guess what? Maidana already fought him! Even though Marcos lost he gained experienced and learned. He improved after that.

A pot shot and clinch wasn't gonna be the blueprint to beat Maidana. Broner found that out the hard way, so did Josesito Lopez. Also, you can't bully around Maidana! Jesus Soto Karass tried that and got bodied. Broner should have learned that walking down Chino is a no-no. Mayweather won't try to walk down Maidana; he knows better.

Another opponent Maidana gained XP from is Amir Khan, who Mayweather was, once again, considering to fight!

Maidana has world class experience. Don't believe the Mayweather hype that his defense is invinsible.

Maidana is a real boxer -- head movement, experience, underrated footwork, underrated speed, power, volume punching, faints, throwaway punches, well-timed combinations. He reminds me of a brawler version of Hopkins. Mayweather is gonna have to dot all his i's and cross all his t's. Maidana is real, not a hypejob.

You got this, Money May! Use your boxing skills!

[icebergisonfire]

If you're talking about boxing skills and world class opposition...

Devon Alexander has good boxing skills, athleticism, speed, toughness, heart, etc. So did Amir Khan at the time he fought El Chino. That Khan was in his prime with Alex Ariza in his corner.

Mayweather -- as good as he is -- is a lot of media hype. I'm not dissing Floyd. But other fighters get downplayed. Some of Maidana's recent opposition have been very good and at very good stages in their careers!

Case in point...

Mayweather himself said that Devon Alexander was a frontrunner to fight him on his Showtime debut. This was before he chose Robert Guerrero.

Guess what? Maidana already fought him! Even though Marcos lost he gained experienced and learned. He improved after that.

A pot shot and clinch wasn't gonna be the blueprint to beat Maidana. Broner found that out the hard way, so did Josesito Lopez. Also, you can't bully around Maidana! Jesus Soto Karass tried that and got bodied. Broner should have learned that walking down Chino is a no-no. Mayweather won't try to walk down Maidana; he knows better.

Another opponent Maidana gained XP from is Amir Khan, who Mayweather was, once again, considering to fight!

Maidana has world class experience. Don't believe the Mayweather hype that his defense is invinsible.

Maidana is a real boxer -- head movement, experience, underrated footwork, underrated speed, power, volume punching, faints, throwaway punches, well-timed combinations. He reminds me of a brawler version of Hopkins. Mayweather is gonna have to dot all his i's and cross all his t's. Maidana is real, not a hypejob.

You got this, Money May! Use your boxing skills!

Oddsmakers are in the business of making money. Maidana is a huge underdog for a reason. He is not comparable in skill to a Floyd Mayweather. By the 6th round, Maidana will be looking bewildered. You can't duplicate training for a Mayweather because there isn't anything like him in boxing. Canelo is a real boxer, what did he do, walked him down.



PC: People don't seem to think of Floyd as imposing, but he did actually walk Shane down in that fight.

EMM: I've seen Floyd walk middleweights down in the gym; walk 'em down. I've seen it myself, so when Floyd got hit with that right hand by Shane, I knew exactly what he was going to do; hands up, walk him down and break him down and that's exactly what he did.

The bolded is what is going to happen, that's what is awesome about this fight. Floyd is going to let the hands go. You can see it in the sparring clips out, he's letting them go.

[LoadedWraps]

I see what you're trying to say, but what you're trying to say, doesn't make sense

Going in circles now though.

Well said.

[Da Machine]

Maidana vs Karass is a great fight BTW. Karass while not an A level fighter isn't an easy out. He destroyed Berto and Gave Thurman more trouble then Maidana.

[milkroot]

Oddsmakers are in the business of making money. Maidana is a huge underdog for a reason. He is not comparable in skill to a Floyd Mayweather. By the 6th round, Maidana will be looking bewildered. You can't duplicate training for a Mayweather because there isn't anything like him in boxing. Canelo is a real boxer, what did he do, walked him down.



PC: People don't seem to think of Floyd as imposing, but he did actually walk Shane down in that fight.

EMM: I've seen Floyd walk middleweights down in the gym; walk 'em down. I've seen it myself, so when Floyd got hit with that right hand by Shane, I knew exactly what he was going to do; hands up, walk him down and break him down and that's exactly what he did.

The bolded is what is going to happen, that's what is awesome about this fight. Floyd is going to let the hands go. You can see it in the sparring clips out, he's letting them go.

That would be beautiful!

But...

I don't want to see my boy Money May get caught with some dumb **** because he decided to walk Maidana down. Just let that bull come forward and run into ****.

Maidana is crafty. Walk him down at your own risk.

[LoadedWraps]

Maidana vs Karass is a great fight BTW. Karass while not an A level fighter isn't an easy out. He destroyed Berto and Gave Thurman more trouble then Maidana.

WAR MAIDANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joseph5620]

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Lets put this bluntly

who has mayweather fought lately with Maidana's intangibles? He is a seasoned pro and the man's will has literally never been broken in the ring. Canelo..green. cotto.. been stopped.. guerrerro, quit before, Ortiz blaah.. mosley Forrest...Marquez..

I guess its Marquez. But Marquez was new to that weight and isnt comfortable pressuring.

Maidana is a unique blend of power, pressure, and amazing intangibles. Yall can count him out but I will not do so until the final bell rings.

The bigger question is who has Maidana fought or beaten on Mayweather's level? And no, Adrian Broner isn't the answer.

I can name numerous fighters Mayweather has beaten on Maidana's level and above Maidana's level.

[LoadedWraps]

The bigger question is who has Maidana fought or beaten on Mayweather's level? And no, Adrian Broner isn't the answer.

I can name numerous fighters Mayweather has beaten on Maidana's level and above Maidana's level.

That's a silly question because no one is on Floyd's level skill wise, Rigo and Maidana have too much of a weight disparity, the statement holds no weight and can be applied to all of Mayweathers opponents minus Castillo and Oscar.

A more relevant question would be, when was the last time Floyd fought a fighter that brought the problems that Chino brings? Never.