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Originally posted by BafanaBafana View PostWatched the fight again:
My scorecard:
R1: 10-9 Maidana (clear round)
R2: 10-9 Maidana
R3: 10-9 Maidana (close round)
R4: 10-9 Maidana
R5: 10-9 Maidana (clear round)
R6: 10-9 Mayweather (clear round)
R7: 10-9 Mayweather (clear round)
R8: 10-9 Maidana (clear round)
R9: 10-9 Mayweather (clear round)
R10: 10-9 Mayweather (clear round)
R11: 10-10 50/50 round (close round)
R12: 10-9 Maidana
116-113 w/the 10-10 round or 115-113 if I give the eleventh to Floyd/or 116-112 to Maidana. Like I said, rounds 3 and 11 were close and can be flipped, perhaps 114-114 if we give Floyd the two close rounds. Rounds 2 and 4 I thought Maidana definitely won but not as clearly as the 'clear rounds' in bold. I could see it as 115-113 Mayweather but it just seems more feasible to score it 115-113 Maidana.
Maidana seemed to dictate the pace throughout most of the fight and landed many right hands and left-hooks throughout--the body work was impressive too, Mayweather only seemed to land good punches in spots and they were few and far between outside of the rounds he won clearly.
First 5 rounds was Maidana's. he was the aggressors and had the ring generalship.
Easy to pick 2 more rounds for Maidana after the 5th.
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I am seeing Pacquiao and Margarito's names being thrown around, as if they are Marcos Maidana.
This is about as bad as Calzaghe fans claiming every Hopkins win enhances Calzaghe's legacy. Why are Margarito and Pacquiao getting credit for Maidana's effort?
First, Pacquiao fights absolutely nothing like Maidana, a swarmer who throws punches even to the back of the head and is very sloppy, is his own good way. He is sloppy, but in a way that benefits him, but still sloppy. 140-147 Pacquiao is not a sloppy guy, and although he throws punches from different angles, he does not throw rabid punches and rams his head into his opponents face. Pac is also no where near being an inside fighter, like Maidana likes to do, he likes to smother his opponent, grab one of their arm and hit you with hooks to the back and side of your head with his free hand. If you grab Pac, he will stare at the ref to come and break it up.
Margarito was humiliated by Shane Mosley, lost to Santos and Williams. I don't even know why he is in the discussion. Oooooh Margarito beat a prime undefeated Kermit Cintron and Joshua Clottey, two hall of famers that proved why Margarito was one of the greatest welterweights who ever lived.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostI am seeing Pacquiao and Margarito's names being thrown around, as if they are Marcos Maidana.
This is about as bad as Calzaghe fans claiming every Hopkins win enhances Calzaghe's legacy. Why are Margarito and Pacquiao getting credit for Maidana's effort?
First, Pacquiao fights absolutely nothing like Maidana, a swarmer who throws punches even to the back of the head and is very sloppy, is his own good way. He is sloppy, but in a way that benefits him, but still sloppy. 140-147 Pacquiao is not a sloppy guy, and although he throws punches from different angles, he does not throw rabid punches and rams his head into his opponents face. Pac is also no where near being an inside fighter, like Maidana likes to do, he likes to smother his opponent, grab one of their arm and hit you with hooks to the back and side of your head with his free hand. If you grab Pac, he will stare at the ref to come and break it up.
Margarito was humiliated by Shane Mosley, lost to Santos and Williams. I don't even know why he is in the discussion. Oooooh Margarito beat a prime undefeated Kermit Cintron and Joshua Clottey, two hall of famers that proved why Margarito was one of the greatest welterweights who ever lived.
Exactly. Styles make fights. They're very hypocrite. They always play the "Floyd doesn't fight like Marquez" card when it suits their agenda, but whenever Floyd had a tough fight against a tough inside fighter, they're the first to get carried away and use the "Manny is faster, punches harder, more relentless pressure fighter" card.
They don't attack the same way when they have their opponents against the ropes. Manny has an easier attacking rhythm and pattern to predict when he has his opponent on the ropes. He'll take a step forward and backward, and then throw straight punches and then do it again when he has his opponents against the ropes, but he gives his opponents enough space to set up their counter shots. If you have good timing and reaction time, then you can timed and offset him on the way in.
It's totally different to the way Maidana attack his opponents and carries over with all of his weight and just maul them on the inside with looping overhand punches all over the top of their head and he's more rugged and harder to push off and create counter-punching space against because he leans in with his head on his opponent's chest and smoother/out-muscle them until they can tie him up for the ref to break it up.
I hate when fans try to make Manny something that he isn't to fit their agenda, then get mad when other people use it against them by comparing other fighters who have beaten and gave him in tough fights in the past to Floyd. Manny is a mid-range pressure fighter, he's not a rough inside pressure fighter where he give his opponent/s little to no choice but to fight on the inside against the ropes. Manny always want to fight on the outside and at mid-range and doesn't fight dirty. Styles make fights. Manny is an aggressive fighter, but he brings a totally different type of aggression that wouldn't consistently work against Floyd. Apples and oranges.Last edited by Carpe Diem; 05-05-2014, 07:59 PM.
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A true fan that understands what really happened that night.
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Floyd got bullied. Maidana hit tons of body shots.
First 4-5 rounds was Maidana's.
I don't know man, you can't win a fight with this guy (Floyd)
Floyd got bullied. People were quiet in the front row.
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Well, I know what I saw (about 7-5 for Chino with my eyes) in a great, close, fight. I'm logging out for a few days just to let things settle down around here, and because I have stuff to do.
My last word is, "Clean punching, when roughly tied in number of landed punches, that fails to produce effective aggression, and fails to facilitate ring generalship, is worth less than hard volume punching that bullies the other guy, produces effective aggression, and allows for ring generalship." Round after round that's my bottom line in this fight.
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Originally posted by !! Shawn View PostWow these everlast pillows are even bigger that Floyds Grants.Originally posted by paulf View PostO_o................Originally posted by kardsufur View Postmaidana landing straight HAMMERS OF GOD from above jesus christ almighty i never seen such shots. are they even legal? mayweather getting annihilatedOriginally posted by Le samouraï View PostMaidana, please don't gas. Please don't gas.
1-0 MaidanaOriginally posted by JaguaresMx View PostChino punches from the sky HAHAHAHAOriginally posted by Anderson Silva View PostChino has done more in 1 round than Canelo did in 12.Originally posted by kardsufur View Postdumbass get off the ropes the HAMMERFIST OF THOR is awaiting youOriginally posted by vErDuGo View PostMaidana 3 _0Originally posted by ussy View PostMaidana 3-0 quite clearlyOriginally posted by FrankieBruno View Post3-1 floyd.......Originally posted by AliBombaye View PostFloyds wants to beat Khan's holding record of the night, too bad he's doing it without throwing combos like Khan did.Originally posted by Badzi1987 View PostHAHAHAHA "I can't see" Excuses coming already!Originally posted by arizashakes View PostMayweather will never have a point taken off. Weeks needs to grow someOriginally posted by paulf View PostO_o.;;;;;;;;;Originally posted by Kwampton View Postplease someone pm with a link, i feel like I'm really missing out on a great fight
thanksOriginally posted by Beercules View PostMaidana went southpaw and Floyd wet into the high guard. Anyone notice that ?Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View PostMoney is showing his age damn!!!
Maidana outbox ing him!!!Originally posted by New England View Postyou have got to be ****ing kidding me...
chino is winning these rounds.
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Originally posted by paulf View Postis this real life?
sound the rocky *****ets.Originally posted by New England View Postyou have got to be ****ing kidding me right now.Originally posted by Kuyukut View Post5 - 0 chino
shotout by maidana. fraud looks like an amateur.Originally posted by kiaba360 View PostI think Chino is doing enough to win rounds, wonder if the judges see it the same.Originally posted by Le samouraï View PostFúcking incredible man.Originally posted by Da Boxer View Postwar maidana, war floyd!
Posted from krikya360.com App for AndroidOriginally posted by junior gong View PostFloyd should have had a point taken for all this holding. He's fighting like a gay!Originally posted by kardsufur View PostThis is just like Mayweather / Castillo I.
If Mayweather loses another round or two he will arguably need a KO to winOriginally posted by Anthony Birts View Post"Sit down and dig up underneath" - Floyd Sr.Originally posted by -Makunouchi- View PostWoahh, floyds in deep trouble.
Keep ducking, we see now why he ducked the prime volume punchers, he cant handle 100 punches in a single round
Rekindled what JLC did..Garcia is brilliant!Originally posted by julian25 View Postlink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIVE ME A LINK!Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostEven fight or 4-2 Maidana so farOriginally posted by DreamMerchant12 View Post...... I can't believe this. Wow.Originally posted by vErDuGo View PostMaidana is gonna get robbedOriginally posted by BoxingAddict773 View PostGoddamn maidana punches sound mean af. I have no doubt Floyd will never be the same after thisOriginally posted by fight_professor View Post5-3 for Maidana.Originally posted by Hougigo View PostI must be blind forrealOriginally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostPretty even through round 10. Championship rounds coming up, whoever wins them wins the fight.Originally posted by Derranged View PostI had it 2-2 after 4, my internet has crashed and will not let me view streams from xmeforums or anywhere else. I swear I'm so ****ing pissed right now. Tomorrow I'm going to a payphone and calling the FBI on xme and getting them shut down for good. Pieceis of **** ****ed me over twice in a row.Originally posted by vErDuGo View PostWhoever have Mayweather winning is a nuthugger. Maidana clearly won this fight
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