PACMAN: The poor man's Duran

[MEXICAN_PRIDE]

Duran's a Ferrari and Pacman's a ford.

Hence the title of the thread "Poor Man's Duran" no one is making a comparison dummy.

[WindUpMerchant]

What's wrong? You don't have the knowledge to debate the other part of the post.

Go back to school, kid. The thread's title is comparing Pacman to a 'poor man's Duran, is it not?

[MEXICAN_PRIDE]

Duran and PAC head to head obviously is not even up for debate and comparing PAC's famous opponents to Duran's rivals don't compare either.

Where's the comparison in the quote above Just like your analogy
Duran is a Ferrari and Pac is a Ford. All the thread is saying

is both fighters came from lighter weights and ended up fighting the best at much heavier weights.

TRUE OR FALSE? 100% TRUE

PAC fought the best in his heaviest weights MAB, MORALES, & JMM

DURAN fought the best in HAGLER, HEARNS, & LEONARD

TRUE OR FALSE? TRUE

[AIR_KENG]

Im half fillipino but the nuthugging is just becoming too much

what does it have to do with being filipino??? next tym when i try to defend manny in some way i'll say im half mexican, lol...

[ItWasWritten]

don't ever mention Pac in the same sentence as Duran. Please & Thanks.

[Bonsi]

LOL! You're obviously upset, i have no idea you're a Duran worshiper, i have offended you, i'm sorry.

I'm not an expert boxing analyst like you, but "enlighten" me? lol! Duran is great, but he's not the best among the boxers i mentioned, and you cannot change that by "enlighten" me.

toughest, meanest? he's tough but not tough enough, you know who's toughest and meanest in their era? Marvin Hagler *******!

And yes i will not debate with you anymore, there is no point, to you Duran is the best, plus you sound like a psycho to me.

You're an idiot. I shouldn't even waste my time debating with you because you don't know your stuff but I'll do so anyways just so I can enlighten you.

Consider the following:

1. Duran was the meanest, toughest lightweight champion of all time. Period. I have a hard time finding many lightweights better then him with the exception of B. Leonard, and Gans. Whitaker would be a tough match for him, but I think at the end Duran's will would of prevailed.
2. A lightweight champion dethroning a welterweight champion was unprecedented for 50 years. Ray Leonard was near his prime as well when Duran defeated him and don't be fooled --the first fight mattered most.
3. A lightweight champion has never, ever dethroned a MIDDLEWEIGHT champion and Duran did just that --10 years after his prime and against a man (Iran Barkley) who was much larger and in his prime. Some of the techniques Duran used in that fight have not been seen at that level for decades because they were learned at the feet of trainers like Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown.

In no way, shape, or form should 'Pacman' EVER be compared to Duran. Duran's a Ferrari and Pacman's a ford.

[xcaret]

don't ever mention Pac in the same sentence as Duran. Please & Thanks.

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[Easy-E]

ur trying to say that duran is much better than pac? nuh uh

you cant even compare duran to pac

[LostGuy]

right now of course you gotta still say duran is better and had the better career but pac is having a really good career at the moment and hes just 27 or so therefore well see. still lots of guys for him to beat. 3k battery the good one and jmm officially although he basically beat him since the judge admitted it. and morales 3 and barrera 2, raheem, rocky juarez, soto, so theres some good fights.

[JoartCC]

To be honest, Duran is the least great of the four greats in his time. He's not the best flyweight also because he had numerous losses which were really bad losses. Losses to Hagler, Hearns, Sugar Ray.

On the other hand, PAC's era is also quite similar to the era of Sugar Ray and company.

Comparing PAC with a poor man's Duran is quite frankly, quite dumb and has really little or no basis to it.

PAC is dominating in a fashion that Duran never did, PAC has not only defeated Mexican all-time greats but also pummels them so bad, that it leaves no doubt as to who the winner is. Duran on the other hand, got beat by all his nemesis.

PAC like Duran posseses KO power, both are sluggers, small in size but makes up for it with a granite chin (although Duran was KO'd by Hearns), and both have similar styles. But that is where Duran's comparison with PAC ends.

PAC has improved and continues to peak where Duran was never able to accomplish. Duran got humiliated from slick boxers like Leonard, he was never able to answer the puzzles of fighters who have quick feet and quick hands. And there was never any controversy to his losses, he got beat because he had no answer to their slick moves. In fact, Duran quit. How can you compare PAC with Duran when he has never quit in any of his fights while Duran quit in frustration whenver his opponents won't face him toe to toe? PAC has found answers to difficult questions. Life long questions of how pure sluggers will be able to beat slick boxers. Throughout history, slick boxers have always been able to dominate sluggers (although sometimes, they achieved it with controversies) thus the saying that "styles make fights". PAC has improved and was able to demolish his enemies in ways Duran was never able to accomplish.

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