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    #41
    Originally posted by PBP View Post
    Anyways all this talk is bull**** until April 13th because Bradley's next fight is not easy by any means.
    Why I think it would have been good for Bradley (Career wise, not so much money wise) to not extend his contract is because IF he beats Pacquaio, he's basically cleaned up TR's current talent, sure, more will likely arise but there's so many great fights at GBP.

    If he beats Pacquaio, jumps ship, get's some great legacy fights including Floyd. Would be awesome for him really.

    But I understand he's gone with the money, I would myself. Plus, he's obviously got a good relationship (at the moment) at TR. If he loses to Pacquaio I'm not sure that will last though but time will tell.

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      #42
      Originally posted by PBP View Post
      Anyways all this talk is bull**** until April 13th because Bradley's next fight is not easy by any means.
      I agree..

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        #43
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Why I think it would have been good for Bradley (Career wise, not so much money wise) to not extend his contract is because IF he beats Pacquaio, he's basically cleaned up TR's current talent, sure, more will likely arise but there's so many great fights at GBP.

        If he beats Pacquaio, jumps ship, get's some great legacy fights including Floyd. Would be awesome for him really.

        But I understand he's gone with the money, I would myself. Plus, he's obviously got a good relationship (at the moment) at TR. If he loses to Pacquaio I'm not sure that will last though but time will tell.
        What it comes down to is that one possibility requires that he wins his last 2 fights with Top Rank while the other possibility protects him in the event he takes an L.

        The GBP possibilities require that he wins 2 more fights with Top Rank . And Arum is known to rob fighters with expiring contracts.

        The Top Rank deal guarantees him a minimum purse, win or lose. If he loses to Pac he still has several fights that HBO would gladly pick up.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
          If you say so dude..What I see is some of his stiffest comp,and him not fighting them..Now I've giving May his fair share of praise,and he deserves it,but at the same time..When I hear guy's talking about daring to be great..Without mentioning,Mayweather retired when the Cotto fight was the hottest ticket in town..The Martinez fight would have been crazy..No Pac fight(I do blame both of them for this)He could have moved right up to WW and got it shaking with Hoya(at WW)Forest Mosley Tito etc etc..Even now Lara is right there..Legacy and I see a voting site up about Khan and Maidana..It just get's me tight..
          If I say what? What am I saying that's not true?

          How could he have got the De La Hoya fight at WW? Or any of those fights for that matter.

          The fact remains that the Lara sitaution and the Bradley situation are completely different scenario's. And that is a fact.

          If Bradley wasn't in Mayweather's weight class then it would make sense. But he is. Mayweather will fight guys who aren't draws at WW, whoever is a contender he'll fight because that's his comfortable weight class. He's shown that as opposed to Jr MW where he's exclusively fought people who are big draws and big money.

          Mayweather doesn't have options. A P4P ranked fighter in his weight class is a no brainer for him.

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            #45
            Originally posted by PBP View Post
            What it comes down to is that one possibility requires that he wins his last 2 fights with Top Rank while the other possibility protects him in the event he takes an L.

            The GBP possibilities require that he wins 2 more fights with Top Rank . And Arum is known to rob fighters with expiring contracts.

            The Top Rank deal guarantees him a minimum purse, win or lose. If he loses to Pac he still has several fights that HBO would gladly pick up.
            That's what I'm saying, money wise I absolutely understand and can't knock him for his decision. Makes perfect sense.

            But I think legacy wise the best option would have been GBP. There's no doubt he'd have a harder time over there not because the opposition but I think he'd have to re-earn his stripes again, unfairly, but that's GBP.

            I think he could though. Who's going to beat him at GBP other than Mayweather?

            Anyway it's done now. The Mayweather-Bradley fight will never happen now.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
              It's not only about a fight,which is where so many go wrong at imo..It about money..Do you believe(keep in mind what the average fighter makes from GBP not named Alvarez or Mayweather)Bradley would have got a better deal from GBP or TR..

              TR would have always been the better deal..They have more money then GBP and would offer him more fights at a higher per fight fee..It's clear,I really don't believe anybody should have to go to a nego table to find that out either..Just look at what Tim has made..What WW or Jr WW,hell even JMW has made this much on GBP not named Mayweather(who is not even in the GBP stable)or Alvarez??
              All we know is he is getting $6 mil plus ppv for the Manny fight. I haven't seen anything else in terms of money. SO short term I don't think he'd make more (unless he fought floyd) but long term, especially if h signed with Haymon after leaving Dunkin, he may have been better off.

              Yes Rome, you have to go to the table to see that. TR may be bigger than GBP, but SHo has a bigger budget than HBO. So you have no idea what Tim could've gotten without at least discussing it.

              GBP offers opponents with fanbases that Tim has a better chance to connect with, which would help his long term earning potential. He doesn't appear to have this with TR.

              SHort term, tim made the best deal for his family. But if he beats Manny he will have left a ton of money on the table.

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                #47
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                If I say what? What am I saying that's not true?

                How could he have got the De La Hoya fight at WW? Or any of those fights for that matter.

                The fact remains that the Lara sitaution and the Bradley situation are completely different scenario's. And that is a fact.

                If Bradley wasn't in Mayweather's weight class then it would make sense. But he is. Mayweather will fight guys who aren't draws at WW, whoever is a contender he'll fight because that's his comfortable weight class. He's shown that as opposed to Jr MW where he's exclusively fought people who are big draws and big money.

                Mayweather doesn't have options. A P4P ranked fighter in his weight class is a no brainer for him.
                He could have landed those fights by simply moving up..Not fighting the Gatti's and Mitchell or Corleys..Stepping up with the big boys..Mosley did it,No??

                There is nothing different about Bradley situation and Lara..Actually Lara is in a better situation being the fact that he is with GBP..No??What is preventing this fight from happening again??

                I never said you said any lies??I'm not trying to bag on you bro,or even on Mayweather..Fact is tho he could have fought Lara Martinez at 154lb..Where he hold a belt,where he holds the ring belt at that..So all of that JMW is not Mayweather weightclass is horse **** bro..I felt the same with Manny when he won a belt there as well..That's like Bradley winning a belt off of Pac,yet acting like he was still a Jr WW..WTF??

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  All we know is he is getting $6 mil plus ppv for the Manny fight. I haven't seen anything else in terms of money. SO short term I don't think he'd make more (unless he fought floyd) but long term, especially if h signed with Haymon after leaving Dunkin, he may have been better off.

                  Yes Rome, you have to go to the table to see that. TR may be bigger than GBP, but SHo has a bigger budget than HBO. So you have no idea what Tim could've gotten without at least discussing it.

                  GBP offers opponents with fanbases that Tim has a better chance to connect with, which would help his long term earning potential. He doesn't appear to have this with TR.

                  SHort term, tim made the best deal for his family. But if he beats Manny he will have left a ton of money on the table.
                  Timmy does not connect with Fans like that..He's not Broner or Khan(their mouths),he's not Maidana or Matt's or 3G(thier power)..He's him,he would be him on GBP or on TR..Like I said name the fighter,outside of Floyd and Alvarez,who has made then Bradley in the last yr??I'll wait..Showtime budget has gotten bigger cause they have to pay May..Of course their budget has gotten bigger..

                  HBO fighters are making more bro..Go look up purses for last yr..Then do the math..Like I said Alvarez and Mayweather..Who else tho??

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    He could have landed those fights by simply moving up..Not fighting the Gatti's and Mitchell or Corleys..Stepping up with the big boys..Mosley did it,No??
                    It wasn't that easy.

                    There's no way he'd have got Oscar at that time.

                    Mitchell was at 147. When he fought Mitchell all of those guys had left 147 other than Mosley and that's a fight Mayweather wanted.

                    I have absolutely no idea when a Trinidad fight could have happened.

                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    There is nothing different about Bradley situation and Lara..Actually Lara is in a better situation being the fact that he is with GBP..No??What is preventing this fight from happening again??
                    You can't honestly believe this. Are you not seeing what I'm writing?

                    Bradley is a WW. Mayweather has shown that you don't have to be a draw to get a fight him at WW because that's his comfortable weight. He's fought Guererro and Ortiz there in recent years.

                    Jr MW is a whole different sceanrio because Mayweather has shown that he only fights at Jr MW if it's big money, because he's not comfortable at 154, he's never weighed more than 151 lbs and comes to the ring at 150 lbs.

                    Bradley is a WW, Lara is a Jr MW.

                    Hence; Completely different sitation.

                    I've already told you why Lara hasn't got a Mayweather fight.

                    I doubt Mayweather fights above his weight class ever again. But of course that doesn't affect Bradley who fights in Mayweathers weight class which is WW.

                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                    I never said you said any lies??I'm not trying to bag on you bro,or even on Mayweather..Fact is tho he could have fought Lara Martinez at 154lb..Where he hold a belt,where he holds the ring belt at that..So all of that JMW is not Mayweather weightclass is horse **** bro..I felt the same with Manny when he won a belt there as well..That's like Bradley winning a belt off of Pac,yet acting like he was still a Jr WW..WTF??
                    It's not his weight class. Atleast not his comfortable weight class or the weight class he wants to fight at. Like I said, I highly doubt he ever fights above WW again.

                    He holds a belt there, but I doubt he does for much longer.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                      Timmy does not connect with Fans like that..He's not Broner or Khan(their mouths),he's not Maidana or Matt's or 3G(thier power)..He's him,he would be him on GBP or on TR..Like I said name the fighter,outside of Floyd and Alvarez,who has made then Bradley in the last yr??I'll wait..Showtime budget has gotten bigger cause they have to pay May..Of course their budget has gotten bigger..

                      HBO fighters are making more bro..Go look up purses for last yr..Then do the math..Like I said Alvarez and Mayweather..Who else tho??
                      I agree money wise TR was the better and much safer and secure option.

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