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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    There is no risk in a floyd fight. fighting floyd, win or lose, is the most exsposure tim will get. His value to the company is at its highest when they first sign him. Winning other fights does not increase his profile.

    SO beat floyd, great. Lose to floyd, as most expect, then you have just been seen on ppv by a huge number of people.
    As much sense as it makes from a competitive and division defining standpoint (and for TB)...honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you think Floyd would take this fight.

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      #72
      Uh....well yeah. That's what he will have to do fighting under the TR banner at this particular time.

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        #73
        Originally posted by LADIV View Post
        didn't roach just came up publicly saying that he was su****ious of ariza and that he would give manny some type of drinks before workouts and when asked what was on those drinks ariza would not tell him
        again speculations, do u honestly think roach will rat his star fighter out lmao!! that was roach's way of trying to talk bad about ariza because of what happen. now im asking u has pac ever been caught or rumors from close friends, pass trainers, ex promoter, etc?? no. but yet pac still gets accused and its ok. now as soon as people starts accusing marquez, we're hypocrites now?? like i said if u ever thought pac was dirty then how can u ignored marquez hooking up with memo, hypocrites too??

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          #74
          Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
          As much sense as it makes from a competitive and division defining standpoint (and for TB)...honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you think Floyd would take this fight.
          I see no reason why this fight wouldn't get made if Tim left TR. Its a solid fight against a solid opponent, the kind of fight floyd always makes.

          why do you think it wont? I hope you are not going with some crazy NSB reasoning regarding floyd's opposition as to why it wouldn't get made.

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            #75
            Thing is golden boy have nobody big at 147

            Only Floyd who had three fights and will continue cherry picking thus not fighting Bradley even if he moved

            In reality look at the gb roster bar Floyd, it's all c level guys at 147

            Plus it looks like gur will move to tr after that, who knows? Maybe more will follow to get paid better like Bradley has been from hbo

            Just look at the gb guys its full of c level Guys Like Ortiz and Khan at 147 which are the guys Floyd fights, Bradley is better, he will get nothing from going to gb, he is at a better promoter

            Like it or not, arum made Oscar, Floyd and Pac into stars, gb have made zero stars

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              #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              There is no risk in a floyd fight. fighting floyd, win or lose, is the most exsposure tim will get. His value to the company is at its highest when they first sign him. Winning other fights does not increase his profile.

              SO beat floyd, great. Lose to floyd, as most expect, then you have just been seen on ppv by a huge number of people.
              again where is ortiz and guerrero?? how is losing to floyd will get u more exposure than fighting on floyd's undercard and possibly coming out with the w?? like i said if gbp just invested all this money to get tim why would they force the floyd fight so soon? business wise that makes zero sense when they can throw tim on floyd's undercard build him off as the next guy to beat floyd and make some money off that fight then evenually they'll make the floyd fight.

              they will make more money this way than to force the floyd fight right away. its easier to promote someone u're building to be the next guy to beat floyd than to throw tim right away and if he loses then how are they gonna promote tim now? oh he lost to floyd but he's still a good fighter? lol.

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                #77
                Originally posted by evol View Post
                again speculations, do u honestly think roach will rat his star fighter out lmao!! That was roach's way of trying to talk bad about ariza because of what happen. Now im asking u has pac ever been caught or rumors from close friends, pass trainers, ex promoter, etc?? No. But yet pac still gets accused and its ok. Now as soon as people starts accusing marquez, we're hypocrites now?? Like i said if u ever thought pac was dirty then how can u ignored marquez hooking up with memo, hypocrites too??
                hooking up with memo has nothing to do with it, marquez has not failed a drug test either before or after memo,if im correct didnt marquez say he was willing to do all the test manny wanted him to do as long as he did them too and thats when arum stepped in and said let the commission do its job and the testing thing never came back up.hhhhhmmmmmmmm there is two sides to the story the real one and the one we choose to believe

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Evol View Post
                  again where is ortiz and guerrero?? how is losing to floyd will get u more exposure than fighting on floyd's undercard and possibly coming out with the w?? like i said if gbp just invested all this money to get tim why would they force the floyd fight so soon? business wise that makes zero sense when they can throw tim on floyd's undercard build him off as the next guy to beat floyd and make some money off that fight then evenually they'll make the floyd fight.

                  they will make more money this way than to force the floyd fight right away. its easier to promote someone u're building to be the next guy to beat floyd than to throw tim right away and if he loses then how are they gonna promote tim now? oh he lost to floyd but he's still a good fighter? lol.
                  you keep saying the same thing so my answer wont change-ghost and ortiz are not undefeated ww champs coming into the fight with wins over jmm and manny on ppv in succession. if you can't see the difference then its pointless to continue.

                  same as above-why would they need to build him up. tim wouldn't be in the same position he was when he joined TR. the only way GBP can build him more is with a win over floyd-thats why the fight happens immediately. you keep acting as if fighting lesser fighters on floyd's undercads would enhance him as an opponent. it wouldn't. he would be the top opponent for floyd at that point.

                  If he loses its expected, he moves on to higher profile fights with lesser opponents afterwards. tim is 31, he's not a kid so to keep saying they need to build him makes no sense.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by LADIV View Post
                    this is the thing that pisses me off about manny he got ktfo by marquez,they both took the same test and passed before and after the fight.but since he got stretched all of a sudden he is a f uking cruzader for performance drug testing..
                    Hypocrite much pacquiao ?????
                    That's true but even against Bradley, Marquez had an issue with doing VADA testing and they had to work out a deal for the commission to do the testing instead. He does have a self proclaimed steroid master mind working with him and his body went through a drastic transformation at 40 years old after he resorted to drinking his own piss against Floyd lol. In the end, Floyd was ultimately right about the sport needing the testing.

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                      #80
                      If Tim wins, loses or draws you can see a matchup coming against Cotto miles away. Provo is the best option for fans but I don't know if that is PPV material. Not to many ppl want to watch a Marquez fight again.

                      There is not going to be no Bradley vs Khan/Floyd/Garcia/Thurman/Porter/Maidana/Matthysse, etc

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