Comments Thread For: Mayweather: 2 Losses, Taxes - Now Pacquiao Wants Me

[WESS]

It's perfectly fine to feel the way you do about the way In which Manny has handled his career. He has been irresponsible financially and has shown bad judgement In whom he deals with buisness wise. But to label Pacquiao a fighter that has cherry picked his opponents and fought bums Is without a doubt Inaccurate and Ignorant. Unless of course you are willing to make the same inaccurate Ignorant comments about Floyd, being that they both have fought and beat some of the biggest and best fighters In the sport. The only difference Is, beside Jaun Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao has beaten all of there other common opponents more decisively. When Pacquiao's career Is said and done no one Is going to question his level of opposition other then a few Ignorant posters on a message board, such as this one.

From his past epic fights (when I was a fan of his) yes, but current'y you are sadly mistaken because Clottey, Margarito and Mosley had not been relevant OR even top contenders when pac fought them. All were losers and past prime bums who did absolutely nothing after Pac fought them let alone before he fought them. To think Pac turned down a 50-50 fight with Floyd to fight these bums is pathetic.

Also, JMM, Bradley and Rios did not fight at WW yet Pac decided to fight them there rather than fighting actual WW's like we expect Floyd to do when he's fighting at WW let alone JMW. Ironically Floyd isn't even allowed to fight WW's now.

Remember this standard was a HUGE issue when Floyd fought the former undefeated WW title holder in Ricky Hatton. Remember all the excuses about how the undefeated king Hatton had no business fighting at WW AFTER Floyd gave him his FIRST loss? Yet Pac for the last 3 fights is doing the exact same.

Sorry, I don't hold Floyd to such high standards that I can only bash him for fighting guys who don't even fight at WW while letting Pac slide. People want to complain about how Hatton wasn't his best at WW, well Floyd isn't his best at JMW. People still want and expect him to fight there.

At the end of the day, Floyd found a way to make 100's of millions because Pac turned down 100's of millions to fight bums. Floyd found a way to make up for lack of income from that fight by fighting top contenders, P4P, Champions in or around his weight class. All coming off wins and looking good in their previous fights.

To further bash Floyd, let's hope he doesn't go down Pac's standard of selections and fights that bum Khan who's irrelevant at WW, let a lone being pure garbage. It's **** and I won't have any problem ****ting all over that fight just like I've done with Pac's disgraceful selection of opposition over the years.

[ironmt]

From his past epic fights (when I was a fan of his) yes, but current'y you are sadly mistaken because Clottey, Margarito and Mosley had not been relevant OR even top contenders when pac fought them. All were losers and past prime bums who did absolutely nothing after Pac fought them let alone before he fought them. To think Pac turned down a 50-50 fight with Floyd to fight these bums is pathetic.

Also, JMM, Bradley and Rios did not fight at WW yet Pac decided to fight them there rather than fighting actual WW's like we expect Floyd to do when he's fighting at WW let alone JMW. Ironically Floyd isn't even allowed to fight WW's now.

Remember this standard was a HUGE issue when Floyd fought the former undefeated WW title holder in Ricky Hatton. Remember all the excuses about how the undefeated king Hatton had no business fighting at WW AFTER Floyd gave him his FIRST loss? Yet Pac for the last 3 fights is doing the exact same.

Sorry, I don't hold Floyd to such high standards that I can only bash him for fighting guys who don't even fight at WW while letting Pac slide. People want to complain about how Hatton wasn't his best at WW, well Floyd isn't his best at JMW. People still want and expect him to fight there.

At the end of the day, Floyd found a way to make 100's of millions because Pac turned down 100's of millions to fight bums. Floyd found a way to make up for lack of income from that fight by fighting top contenders, P4P, Champions in or around his weight class. All coming off wins and looking good in their previous fights.

To further bash Floyd, let's hope he doesn't go down Pac's standard of selections and fights that bum Khan who's irrelevant at WW, let a lone being pure garbage. It's **** and I won't have any problem ****ting all over that fight just like I've done with Pac's disgraceful selection of opposition over the years.

Was Mosley relevant when Floyd fought him?(I believe Mosley was also coming off of a layoff of almost a year and a half) Didn't Floyd avoid Margarito altogether? Didn't Marquez move up two weight classes to fight Floyd at an agreed upon weight of 144lbs, Floyd came In at 146lbs and was fined $600,000.

[WESS]

Was Mosley relevant when Floyd fought him?(I believe Mosley was also coming off of a layoff of almost a year and a half) Didn't Floyd avoid Margarito altogether? Didn't Marquez move up two weight classes to fight Floyd at an agreed upon weight of 144lbs, Floyd came In at 146lbs and was fined $600,000.

"Too good Mosley" was the WW Champion of the world and top 3 WW when Floyd fought him. A fighter Pac and his team openly ducked.

Floyd hasn't fought anyone with top rank since leaving Top Rank. However Floyd fought the man that destroyed Margarito's disgraceful career. Also remember that Mosley, Bradley and JMM all had to sign with Top Rank in order to fight Pac.

Fat Floyd coming off a lay off paid JMM to agree to 147, the same weight pac cherry picked him at. However nobody gave Floyd credit for that win. Or at least they didn't until Pac wanted him there too. Talk about a backfire.

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You should be bringing to light the idiotic comments being made by Floyd as to why this fight is not happening. "Owing taxes" is not a valid argument.

If less people would be supporting those type of comments and who Floyd picks as alternative fighters, then Floyd would have had no choice but to fight the riskier fights or like he did before, retire!

Why a fight isn't happening i.e. Floyd's words are irrelevant to Freddie Roach's implicating Pac and Ariza in something untoward. You have to understand and separate **** talking/posturing, it isn't real, from actions designed to give a fighter an unfair advantage in the ring (PEDs). That's serious business if you look at it in hindsight. Cotto really took a beating against Pac, and he took a nice one against the corrupt Margarito but do you see a pattern with both fighters? One is a proven cheat and the other has been whispered about. Well Roach took those whispers and pushed their ****ty face out in the open for everyone to see and all Pac's brain dead army can do with the information is talk about Mayweather.

Its a sad state of affairs in the sport when Manny's defenders go into overdrive to defend a potential cheater by attacking the sports number boxer and draw.

People much like myself have been saying for years that this was going to happen to him. That his career is being mismanaged. That like De La Hoya, Mayweather and then Cotto, fighters had to leave Bob in order to make the largest fights of their careers. Pac knowing his financial problems a few years ago STILL didn't do anything about it. Floyd's sitting back saying I told you so. As I am because I called this years ago. Pac's career is going to **** fighting bums and when he's not fighting bums he's cherry picking fighters who do not fight at Welter Weight.

Pac is ******. Anyone who turns down 50-50 with Floyd is a ****ing ******. Now he's going to pay for it. Again, lets just hope he makes the right decision at the end of the year like other great fighters have done.

Good points, but putting faith in a ****** is like putting faith in a spaghetti strainer to hold water.

[ADP02]

Why a fight isn't happening i.e. Floyd's words are irrelevant to Freddie Roach's implicating Pac and Ariza in something untoward. You have to understand and separate **** talking/posturing, it isn't real, from actions designed to give a fighter an unfair advantage in the ring (PEDs). That's serious business if you look at it in hindsight. Cotto really took a beating against Pac, and he took a nice one against the corrupt Margarito but do you see a pattern with both fighters? One is a proven cheat and the other has been whispered about. Well Roach took those whispers and pushed their ****ty face out in the open for everyone to see and all Pac's brain dead army can do with the information is talk about Mayweather.

Its a sad state of affairs in the sport when Manny's defenders go into overdrive to defend a potential cheater by attacking the sports number boxer and draw.



Good points, but putting faith in a ****** is like putting faith in a spaghetti strainer to hold water.

This has been going on since 2009. At first, one can blame it to the 2 sides couldn't come to an agreement and stuck to their guns but after a while you look at the two sides and all I'm seeing is one side always putting roadblocks (FLOYD) and the other side (Manny)giving in a bit to get the fight on.

Sorry but BOTH sides are saying that "Absolutely Manny wants the fight" and both sides are saying "Floyd is not interested". Again, posturing is what happened in 2009 but after 4+ years of this you can't call it that no more. You just need to admit like everyone, including Floyd, that Floyd just doesn't want to take the risk at this present time against Manny. It's already not the same as in 2009/2010 but Floyd is making sure that the risk is minimized for his precious "0"

Recently:
“I have been lucky to have reached this point in my career, and undefeated,” said Mayweather. “Losing all of that to Manny who is in desperate mode right now is a scary thing ”

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This has been going on since 2009. At first, one can blame it to the 2 sides couldn't come to an agreement and stuck to their guns but after a while you look at the two sides and all I'm seeing is one side always putting roadblocks (FLOYD) and the other side (Manny)giving in a bit to get the fight on.

Sorry but BOTH sides are saying that "Absolutely Manny wants the fight" and both sides are saying "Floyd is not interested". Again, posturing is what happened in 2009 but after 4+ years of this you can't call it that no more. You just need to admit like everyone, including Floyd, that Floyd just doesn't want to take the risk at this present time against Manny. It's already not the same as in 2009/2010 but Floyd is making sure that the risk is minimized for his precious "0"

Recently:
“I have been lucky to have reached this point in my career, and undefeated,” said Mayweather. “Losing all of that to Manny who is in desperate mode right now is a scary thing ”

Again, this isn't linear algebra, we have one fighter that's been knocked cold 2 fights ago, and not just any KO, his defeat will outlast highlight reels (****ing epic). Add to the equation he's been performing poorly by Pac standards and of course who can forget the allegations by his own trainer. When you add all that up, what you wrote seems trite and dismissive of the implications of reality.

One thing I noticed about NSB, so many people mindlessly b1tch about reoccurring thread topics and conversations, but still find themselves feeding at the same inane trough. Greedily gobbling up rehashed argument after rehashed argument as if it was fresh hay and they were dumb ass donkeys.

Again, sorry for saying "again" again you poor thing but I need you to see how many times I keep reiterating the same clear and cogent point with no real response from the Pac obsessed. Ahem, again, there is a cloud hanging over the Pacquiao camp and until it clears the last thing on the minds of Pac's brain dead army should be a fight with Mayweather. Pac's got the fight of his life against the IRS to worry about, and unlike here he won't have any frothing zombies to assist him.

Smooches.....

[tangalog2200]

Again, this isn't lineal algebra, we have one fighter that's been knocked cold 2 fights ago, and not just any KO, his defeat will outlast highlight reels (****ing epic). Add to the equation he's been performing poorly by Pac standards and of course who can forget the allegations by his own trainer. When you add all that up, what you wrote seems trite and dismissive of the implications of reality.

One thing I noticed about NSB, so many people mindlessly b1tch about reoccurring thread topics and conversations, but still find themselves feeding at the same inane trough. Greedily gobbling up rehashed argument after rehashed argument as if it was fresh hay and they were dumb ass donkeys.

Again, sorry for saying "again" again you poor thing but I need you to see how many times I keep reiterating the same clear and cogent point with no real response from the Pac obsessed. Ahem, again, there is a cloud hanging over the Pacquiao camp and until it clears the last thing on the minds of Pac's brain dead army should be a fight with Mayweather. Pac's got the fight of his life against the IRS to worry about, and unlike here he won't have any frothing zombies to assist him.

Smooches.....

so all those testing that the fighters went through are for nothing...

when some one throw su****ions up in thin air........

so out goes VADA, USADA etc etc.....

one thing getting very clear is floyd is not alone in fear.......of the kod midget....

floyd's fans share his fear of pac and so bacomes the accuser, the judge and the executioner....from questions on pac's debts, taxes, peds, lifestyles, bed mates, inteligence, ****** etc etc he he he he......

it is 2014, guys......wake up and grow up

[dynomyte1444]

This idiot is an absolute disgrace to the sport.

Youre a disgrace to this site. You absolute bring nothing to the table

[tangalog2200]

Dude he got KTFO 2 fights ago and has struggled his last several fights, **** and add to that Roach's revelations, honestly, the prospect of a fight isn't as appealing for me. It might be for you, but you're probably one of the poor dullards that ante up to see a slob lose and not win. Heh, how shallow can a fan be? Sports and competition is about winning and honoring winners. What happened to the idea of a "sweet science," the hit but not be hit, the awe and majesty of sheer brinkmanship? What happened to the complete fighter, that knew how to do everything reasonably well? In terms of sheer athleticism this era has the older fighters beat hands down, but that's brute force and not finesse.

Mayweather reminds me of those old time fighters and that isn't to say he's better. Maybe he is or maybe he isn't, but unquestionably he has more tools in his toolkit than just about everyone.

the old timers the great ones did not shy away from competition....

a fight the boxing fans wants to see is dragging and not happening for YEARS - is a very big embarrassment to the sport....and i need not point fingers to people preventing this fight to happen.....

worse, so many people are swayed by many irrelevant side issues; issues that were and are still being floated in the blame game that never ends.....

i just want to see pac and floyd fight in our life time...maybe twice or a trilogy i won't mind.....but not to see them fight even once is a SHAME a very big SHAME.....

for me...p4p king title and crown does not fit pac's or floyd's head....

ALI would have teach them both of what a true fighter is....ALI the GOAT...faced every one fair and square....a mark of a true champion...

[tangalog2200]

Its widely known that Pac is a ****ing ******. However I have faith that he will make the right decision at the end of the year when his contract expires.

Hopefully he actually understands what that actually means.

i hope you can guarantee floyd will fight pac when pac (the ****** who honors his contract) gets out of bob's tentacles he he he.....

back to which may i ask if it is to be a ****** to honor a contract in your country?

what if the kobes, lebrons, wades, durants of the nba do not honor their contracts? nfl players not honoring their contracts?

AND....does floyd's contract to fight 6 times under the ppv provider has a "free to be a ****** caluse"? just asking....