Comments Thread For: Mayweather: 2 Losses, Taxes - Now Pacquiao Wants Me

[shade darkar]

Its not a problem. It means he's a capitalist interested in money same as floyd or any one else. It's ok if he's seen as an icon at home. Here, he's just another athlete seeking the fame and the fortune. He should get treated as such.

I can't see how anyone could be mad at that.

im not mad about that. you said in that post it was a problem that he is earning money in america. i was just wondering why?

[The Big Dunn]

no leonard. floyd walked away from a 50/50 because he couldnt get extra testing. funny how that was never a problem when he was fighting ricky hatton isnt it?

and yes, pacman turned down 40 mil, i can also say floyd turned down the same offer but with 50 mil.

so you can spin it anyway you want.

you yourself said the 40 offer was a joke, but now it fits your agenda you be like, oh he turned it down floyd is the best of all times!!!!

funny how floyd fans keep coming up with reasons why floyd shouldnt fight this guy, instead of being a fan and demanding the fight like all true boxing fans want.

you are one of these guys that is more interested in how many people are watching the tv when floyd is on, or how many millions are going into floyds bank account than the actual fights themselves. im more interested in watching competitive fights, but whatever.

as you fanboys like to profess, floyd is his own boss and can pick and choose who he wants to fight. maybe you can explain why he is trying to fight khan?

you know the first paragrpah isn't true. Manny himself admitted he turned the deal down. floyd thought manny was using so he asked for ped testing. I think in light of Freddie's comments, that was a smart decision.

You can say it, that doesn't make it true.

I never said anything like that. the quality of the offer is one thing, manny turning it down is another. Yes, IMO the offer was crap. No, IMO manny shouldn't have turned it down because had he accepted the good deal none of the othe BS would've happened.

I haven't come up with one reason why floyd shouldn't fight manny. I just don't think floyd should give manny what he wants to prove to posters he wants the fight. I want Manny to prove he wants the fight by agreeing to an offer when its made.

If saying what I am more interested in makes you feel superior go for it. I want to see good fights in general. when it come to this specific fight I want to see manny agree to an offer to make it happen.

I don't go around saying floyd is his own boss. why he is fighting khan-it's a payday-the same reason Manny fought Rios, and the same reason hundreds and hundreds of fights have taken place throughout history. Do I want to see this fight-of course not.

Now that thats done, can you please just apply the same rules regarding accepting career high paydays to every fighter an criticize all of them when they fail to meet this standard.

[The Big Dunn]

im not mad about that. you said in that post it was a problem that he is earning money in america. i was just wondering why?

NO, I didn't mean it like "it was a problem." SOrry for the poor choice of wording.

[shade darkar]

you know the first paragrpah isn't true. Manny himself admitted he turned the deal down. floyd thought manny was using so he asked for ped testing. I think in light of Freddie's comments, that was a smart decision.

You can say it, that doesn't make it true.

I never said anything like that. the quality of the offer is one thing, manny turning it down is another. Yes, IMO the offer was crap. No, IMO manny shouldn't have turned it down because had he accepted the good deal none of the othe BS would've happened.

I haven't come up with one reason why floyd shouldn't fight manny. I just don't think floyd should give manny what he wants to prove to posters he wants the fight. I want Manny to prove he wants the fight by agreeing to an offer when its made.

If saying what I am more interested in makes you feel superior go for it. I want to see good fights in general. when it come to this specific fight I want to see manny agree to an offer to make it happen.

I don't go around saying floyd is his own boss. why he is fighting khan-it's a payday-the same reason Manny fought Rios, and the same reason hundreds and hundreds of fights have taken place throughout history. Do I want to see this fight-of course not.

Now that thats done, can you please just apply the same rules regarding accepting career high paydays to every fighter an criticize all of them when they fail to meet this standard.

as i said you can spin it anyway you want. you can say pacman walked away because he wouldnt do the extra testing, or you can say floyd walked away because he couldnt get his extra testing and wasnt happy to let the commission do it. its the same end result - no fight.

when it comes to this specific fight, i dont care who gets what, i just want to see the fcuking fight. thats the difference, you want to see pacman do this and do that to get the fight. well in my opinion, fcuk that. just make the fight. both fighters will make a career high anyway.

[MindBat]

I've been a Floyd Mayweather fan since 1996 but this guy clearly ducked Manny Pacquiao. I've never seen so many excuses. Manny Pacquiao didn't talk about his legal problems or crazy about him while he was locked up. If you claim to be "The Best Ever" you fight the best or that guy that everyone thinks you'll lose too. That'll always be in Mayweather's legacy. Undefeated don't mean ***** if nothing shows from it.

No excuses, money. Floyd been moved on. Wherever he goes he's asked about Manny and the fight. He answers however he answers and people can't get enough of it.

[The Big Dunn]

Exactly, and that's why we compare Floyd vs Manny's actions! You, for example, loves to bring up Manny cheating on his wife and Manny's ******** problems, but fail to talk about Floyd's behavior when it comes to mistreating women and ******** habits which is so much worse!

My post has nothing to do with wanting Pac to be treated like a hero here in the States, that's not the point. When pac fans brag about Pac, it has to do with his underdog story and how he stays humble even with his rise to popularity and how he represents our country. I don't give a crap about how much money he makes, heck even my folks make fun of Pac's tax problems. There is a reason why Pac is more respected than Donaire. It's not all about skills, it's how you present yourself as a human being. When Floyd fans brag about Floyd, it's about his 0 and his money. There IS a difference.

The funny thing about what you posted is that EVERYTHING you said applies to Floyd, specifically this:

"DO not expect people to treat him like a national hero here. Expect people to make jokes about his personal shortcomings just like any other high profile person. Expect to have his decisions and personal life scrutinized. Thats the price you pay in America for wealth and fame."

and that's EXACTLY why Floyd is being criticized by everyone! You seen those videos of Floyd crying about being an 'american' but not getting respect, lol. That's exactly what I'm saying about Floyd ignorant. So next time you get defensive about why people hate on Floyd, don't forget what you just posted, because I know you forget things

That is completely untrue. I have discussed floyd's beating his girl, the TRT video,not making an offer that could make the fight get made. You know this too because we have discussed it.

Perhaps you missunderstand why pople celebrate floyd. He has come from just as bad situations as manny. Manny may have been more impoverished and had the language barrier-floyd's father held him up as a shield and his mom was an addict. Additonally, this is America-Money is central to everything that happens here-rightly or wrongly. If you don't like flossin-cool I get that. Lot of people don't.

A lot of people do like it. Like you said its cultural differences.

floyd isn't being criticized by everyone. He is criticized by a lot of people but thats what happens here. The most criticized people in the US are generally the most exceptional-Lebron, floyd, Peyton Manning, *****, etc. etc.

No person is above criticism, any adult knows that. Notice I tease manny about the things you said-I don't call him gay etc etc. As for the things I jab him about-if he didn't do it I couldn't say a word.

Besides, you know that 9 times out of 10 my jabs are a response to fringe manny fans.

[V.WEBB]

The funniest thing for me is that his fans --fanatics, really-- cheered him on when he ducked the fight when it was the most realistic time for it to happen. They literally cheered Manny on for NOT accepting a 14 day cut off of blood testing.

"Yea Manny! Don't bow down to that coward!"

"Manny doesn't need fraud boy!!"

"He only asked for testing to duck Manny!!"

Now Manny and his team (sans Bob Arum) are desperate for the big money fight with all of the money issues that Manny has now. And what is Fraud Jr doing? Rubbing it in. Oh man how the tables have turned.

[maguirre]

The funniest thing for me is that his fans --fanatics, really-- cheered him on when he ducked the fight when it was the most realistic time for it to happen. They literally cheered Manny on for NOT accepting a 14 day cut off of blood testing.

"Yea Manny! Don't bow down to that coward!"

"Manny doesn't need fraud boy!!"

"He only asked for testing to duck Manny!!"

Now Manny and his team (sans Bob Arum) are desperate for the big money fight with all of the money issues that Manny has now. And what is Fraud Jr doing? Rubbing it in. Oh man how the tables have turned.

Man keep on smarting. Soon your hero will be the laughing stock of the world. He already is. Look around you. Hehe... it's as if there's something to regret on Pacman's part. He'll be okay, doe. Worry about your hero, instead.

[Evol]

The funniest thing for me is that his fans --fanatics, really-- cheered him on when he ducked the fight when it was the most realistic time for it to happen. They literally cheered Manny on for NOT accepting a 14 day cut off of blood testing.

"Yea Manny! Don't bow down to that coward!"

"Manny doesn't need fraud boy!!"

"He only asked for testing to duck Manny!!"

Now Manny and his team (sans Bob Arum) are desperate for the big money fight with all of the money issues that Manny has now. And what is Fraud Jr doing? Rubbing it in. Oh man how the tables have turned.

The last we've heard from PAC he says he's gonna turn his back on the Floyd fight for now so how is manny desperate again lol. Look at Floyd, he can't stop talking about manny. Just a few weeks ago it was manny who lol. And the things his fans were saying in the pass is halirious.

"Just take the test if ur clean"

"All PAC has to do is take the test and the fight is on"

"If PAC is clean he shouldn't have a problem doing ost"

[The Big Dunn]

as i said you can spin it anyway you want. you can say pacman walked away because he wouldnt do the extra testing, or you can say floyd walked away because he couldnt get his extra testing and wasnt happy to let the commission do it. its the same end result - no fight.

when it comes to this specific fight, i dont care who gets what, i just want to see the fcuking fight. thats the difference, you want to see pacman do this and do that to get the fight. well in my opinion, fcuk that. just make the fight. both fighters will make a career high anyway.

no its not. one was an actual decision made by manny regarding a real offer that ALL OF US thought would lead to the fight being made. The other was Bob's BS in an interview to justify why he advised manny not to take the fight.

I can respect your point about the fight. I feel almost the same, with the caveat being that I strongly disagreed with not fighting over PED testing.