Comments Thread For: Mayweather: 2 Losses, Taxes - Now Pacquiao Wants Me

[chepboxingking]

Cotto wasnt in his prime anymore after taking beatings from margs and pac,he wasnt the same fighter when he fought floyd and gave him a hell of a fight....shane been in wars man,and has dealt with alott of inactivity that affected him tremendously in that fight..shane back in 2003-06 beats floyd unanimously in my eyes...and i told you records dnt mean **** when you dnt fight the best...calzaghe retired undefeated is he the best???

Man, you have decent knowledge and you constantly make decent point, I just don't agree with them. Cotton has taken two bad beatings in his boxing career and you're stating because of this his not the same fighter? PAC has been in MANY more wars than cotto has, he was still in his prime when he went on that magical run. More fighters than not have been thru nasty wars but still manage to stay legit while in their prime years. Cotto was 32 when he faced Floyd while Floyd was 35 so technically cotto was more in his prime than Floyd was. What REALLLLY hurt cotto was the split up with his uncle. Once he started switching trainers he lost his identity. And funny how you say Shane had a lot of Inactivity. Was you saying that his prior fight before Floyd when he whopped margarito? Crazy how you can be in your prime today than 6months later just be washed up. Either way, when Floyd fought Shane, Shane was arguably the most deserving fighter (besides pac) and was coming of a huge victory over margarito. When he fought cotto, cotto was also a legit champ at 154, so they were both still legit when Floyd fought them. As far as of why he didn't fight them 03-07, remember Floyd was signed to TR at the time so at the end of the day, arum called the shots. Its really unfair to blame Floyd completely for those fights never happening. Arum offered him 8mils to fight cotto, that's a crackhead deal. You can't expect Floyd to headline a ppv event vs cotto for 8mils. Shortly after Floyd bought out his contract and fought hatton for 25mils. Can't be mad at Floyd for that. We see it right now all the bs arum puts PAC through.

[The Big Dunn]

Let's make it clearer:
Floyd assumes that Manny will not bite because, at the time, what was presented to Manny is like a slap in the face/humiliating.

Secondly, if Manny does accept, one of two things will occur.
1) Floyd can then say "oh wait, there is one more thing .... roadblock #6" as he has done over and over again. Right?
2) Perhaps Floyd finally accepts because Floyd would get something that he can't refuse (eg I WANT ALL PPV MONEY) and that it was worth losing his precious "0" but only Floyd can answer that! So far, Floyd has only been coming back with point #1 => ROADBLOCKS
or
Floyd finally accepts because Manny has lost enough (relatively, no longer a threat) since 2009/2010 that it will be like fighting Cotto, Mosley, Oscar, .... too late!!!

Again, if you can handle all of Floyd's roadblocks and even try to explain it with your logic then you can EASILY understand why Manny couldn't accept Floyd's requests/accusations at the time.

If manny accepted either offer what would have happened was a fight between them. But because he hasn't done this you justify it by posting the above. Sad!

The same things you call roadblocks haven't stopped floyd, JMM, tim, shane, rios, etc. from fighting, just Manny. If they truly were roadblocks they would prevent every fight from happening, not just this fight.

Just like those 3 manny has delayed fighting floyd. Each lost when they decided to take the fight. Its obvious manny saw this and did same.

[kadafi]

Just answer this one question.

you think 40million without pay per view share is FAIR??

If manny accepted either offer what would have happened was a fight between them. But because he hasn't done this you justify it by posting the above. Sad!

The same things you call roadblocks haven't stopped floyd, JMM, tim, shane, rios, etc. from fighting, just Manny. If they truly were roadblocks they would prevent every fight from happening, not just this fight.

[ADP02]

If manny accepted either offer what would have happened was a fight between them. But because he hasn't done this you justify it by posting the above. Sad!

The same things you call roadblocks haven't stopped floyd, JMM, tim, shane, rios, etc. from fighting, just Manny. If they truly were roadblocks they would prevent every fight from happening, not just this fight.

Just like those 3 manny has delayed fighting floyd. Each lost when they decided to take the fight. Its obvious manny saw this and did same.

Did we have a fight or did Floyd add new roadblocks when Manny said yes to Floyd? See below.

Floyd said, "Take the test and we have a fight".


Now you moved on to the latest roadblock and YES it's a roadblock ..... actually, it's confusing because it's actually a moving target (roadblock) .....
That is, one day Floyd is saying "Not doing business with Arum" then the next day "I'm not interested in meeting nor fighting Manny but Manny is absolutely interested because he has tax issues"

Sorry Floyd, you and Big Dunn have just ran out of excuses!!! Either you want or don't want the fight and clearly, you don't!

Hmmmm, ..... Floyd admitted that Floyd said "NO, not interested in fighting Manny" and admitted that "Manny is absolutely interested" ...... Someone (Big Dunn) once said, "When does NO mean yes and yes mean no?"

[wpdougie2180]

10) dela hoya vs Trinidad
9) PAC vs Mosley
8)Tyson vs holyfield
7) holyfileld vs foreman
6)Floyd vs cotto
5) Tyson vs McNeely
4) Tyson vs holyfield 2
3) lewis vs Tyson
2) Floyd vs dela hoya
1) Floyd vs canelo

No where in top ten there's a sight of PAC. So I ask again, if I BRING more than you do to the table and generate more money, why should we split the pot 50/50? Asking for 50% when you know you're not worth it AnD not budging I could argue that PAC is the one ducking not Floyd

2 of the 3 Floyd fights hadn't even happened when the 50/50 split was discussed so how is that even relevant

[The Big Dunn]

Did we have a fight or did Floyd add new roadblocks when Manny said yes to Floyd? See below.

Floyd said, "Take the test and we have a fight".


Now you moved on to the latest roadblock and YES it's a roadblock ..... actually, it's confusing because it's actually a moving target (roadblock) .....
That is, one day Floyd is saying "Not doing business with Arum" then the next day "I'm not interested in meeting nor fighting Manny but Manny is absolutely interested because he has tax issues"

Sorry Floyd, you and Big Dunn have just ran out of excuses!!! Either you want or don't want the fight and clearly, you don't!

Hmmmm, ..... Floyd admitted that Floyd said "NO, not interested in fighting Manny" and admitted that "Manny is absolutely interested" ...... Someone (Big Dunn) once said, "When does NO mean yes and yes mean no?"

floyd made manny an offer when he accepted testing-you said so earlier. You called it humiliating. Manny refused it because he wanted more money. So its hard to fault floyd for them not fighting when you confirm he followed up with an offer.

Yes, he said manny is interested NOW because of the tax problems-he also said Manny didn't want the fight previously because he refused offers.

when did floyd say that? you can't keep paraphrasing and pass it off as actual quotes.

[kadafi]

Floyd offered Manny the 40million without pay per view share. And you think its fair RIGHT. Manny just wanted a fair deal thats why He offered Floyd 45/55 which Maynever refused to take even with a bigger share.

floyd made manny an offer when he accepted testing-you said so earlier. You called it humiliating. Manny refused it because he wanted more money. So its hard to fault floyd for them not fighting when you confirm he followed up with an offer.

Yes, he said manny is interested NOW because of the tax problems-he also said Manny didn't want the fight previously because he refused offers.

when did floyd say that? you can't keep paraphrasing and pass it off as actual quotes.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd offered Manny the 40million without pay per view share. And you think its fair RIGHT. Manny just wanted a fair deal thats why He offered Floyd 45/55 which Maynever refused to take even with a bigger share.

he didn't take 50/50 so its hard to argue he wanted a fair deal.

[Kuyukut]

when everything had already been discussed and debated at least a million times. it all goes back to the fact that floyd the roided fraud is still dead scared to fight pac!

no one can deny that fact...!

[Slip Stream]

when everything had already been discussed and debated at least a million times. it all goes back to the fact that floyd the roided fraud is still dead scared to fight pac!

no one can deny that fact...!

Yes no one can deny there's really something wrong with you. Its tough hearing Roach drag down the Pacquiao illusion in under five minutes isn't it? Poor thing, I feel for you, I truly do.