Tales Of Tax Liens - Part III
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You repeat a number of Floydiot talking points that I previously addressed in my replies that got BRONER'ed as usual. So, to save time I'm just going to copy/paste my rebuttal.Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
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Originally Posted by GRUSTLER
Has any Manny Pacquiao fan EVER ask themselves. Why on Earth would a fighter of Manny Pacquiao's caliber turn down random blood testing regardless of if there were no cut offs? Who does this and then goes to fight a guy who just lost to a guy you already beat?
My Reply:
Apparently you don't know the prior history of the event that made Manny wary of blood draws too close to a fight. Try Googling about Manny's blood draws before the Morales fight in 2005. Here's a video, and google will show articles.
Anyway, it affected him adversely because he was cutting weight, it was 2 days before weigh-in, and he couldn't eat or drink anything after the blood draw. He lost that fight because he felt he had no power. That's what Roach was referring to [why he says he doesn't want blood draws 2-3 days before a fight, or having blood draws disrupt 2-3 days when his training is supposed to be peaking before fight week].
Personally, I feel it could have been psychological, all in his mind due to his cultural fears and superstitions. Do Americans/Westerners completely know and understand Filipino culture? And who knows, maybe starvation and dehydration does contribute to adverse effects of a blood draw. Detractors were taunting, "It's only a tablespoon of blood..." Bull****! I know those vials hold way more than that. And they have to fill at least two for A and B samples.
I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd discovered this fact too about Manny, when researching what Manny's weaknesses are...and that fact led him to impose Olympic style blood testing into the negotiations. It definitely wasn't just to "clean up the sport," otherwise we would be seeing more involvement and investment of time as an activist by him with the various testing agencies. Nah, it's apparently just more self-serving hypocrisy in the gospel of Floyd.
Apparently Manny has overcome his superstition and fear of blood draws, having grown accustomed and used to OST blood draws, seeing he does not have adverse side effects since he no longer has to starve and dehydrate himself to make weight. But now that he's agreeable and accepting of OST, TMT's mantra changes from "Take the test and we have a fight" to "No business with Arum." Man, it's mind-boggling how some Floydiots can't (or refuse to) see the changing mantras and their related timeline.
By the way, what's also exasperating to me is the ******ity of idiots parroting the mantra, "He has tattoos yet he's afraid of needles." It takes an imbecile to not be able to differentiate between the sizes of the two different types of needles. Tattoo needles are typically 1.5mm to 2.0mm long. To the metric impaired, that's approximately 1/16" to 3/32" of penetration into the dermis. Those types of skin pricks just make droplets of blood on the epidermis. Phlebotmy/"Venipuncture" needles may be 1" to 1-1/2" long and as the name implies, they PUNCTURE THE VEIN. You can have hemorrhagic complications if blood flow is not controlled. It's so plainly logical, just by looking at the different sizes of the needle; and even by looking at the name of the procedure itself, yet Floydiots will parrot that mantra in their cult of ignorance and denial. Simply mind-boggling...this willful denial of truth.
'Nuff said.
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Check out this other post by GRUSTLER:
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Another epic failure by a Floydiot, thinking he's supplying evidence to support his delusion, not able to read in context the article he supplied to realize he provided direct evidence that counters his own and a number of the other Floydiot talking points you just posed.
The article he linked:
Title: ARUM WANTS PACQUIAO-MAYWEATHER
My reply to GRUSTLER:
First of all, it's cool how you inserted a picture of Bob to answer an obvious rhetorical question (while dodging an answer to the first three words in the question). But that ESPN article you chose to link totally backfires on you and negates the arguments that Floydfans & Floydiots continue to parrot.
Did you NOT notice that the title of the article you linked is, "Arum wants Pacquiao-Mayweather"? Sorry, but you fu#ked yourself up big time. Epic failure...LOL. And then you highlight the first sentence in Arum's quote, to provide evidence to support your stance, but ignore that second sentence which puts it all into CONTEXT, and is supportive of the article's title. To paraphrase it all in context, Bob is saying that Floyd is a b1tch to work with but he's willing to endure his pain-in-the-ass for the benefit of the sport's continued momentum.
Keep in mind, this was November 2009, after the Mayweather/Marquez and Pacquiao/Cotto fights. The article goes on to describe interest being so high that "so many venues are vying for a fight that has yet to be made demonstrates how much attention the sport is receiving." You have Lonn Trost proposing Yankee Stadium, Jerry Jones offering Cowboys Stadium, and most damaging of all to a number of Floydiots' argument, Steve Wynn's proposal:
"Perhaps it's fitting that Las Vegas officials and casino magnate Steve Wynn have already contacted Arum about staging Pacquiao-Mayweather on the Strip. One possibility would be to build a temporary, 30,000-seat outdoor arena on a vacant lot at the old Frontier, where there would be room for corporate hospitality tents and a Super Bowl-like atmosphere."
That paragraph just shot down the argument that the outdoor arena proposal only happened after Floyd's jail time. Nope, it looks more like Arum's continued vision and ideal of Steve Wynn's proposal to maximize the Super Bowl-like atmosphere for the fight.
Here's another damaging paragraph:
"I have to have discussions with our side, and when the time is right, I will be talking to Bob," Schaefer told The Associated Press. "That will probably take place face to face, and I intend that to happen very shortly."
That statement by Schaefer, plus what TMT members Ellerbee & Floyd have said in the article...all proof that Bob Arum was NOT a roadblock to the fight being made. It just becomes one now after other concessions have already been made. What's up with that? What's the next roadblock? After Pac is free of Arum, Floyd will make another lowball monetary offer so insulting that Pac will be making the "slave wages" that Floyd was crying about, so Floyd can triumphantly brag that Pac said NO? When will the BS end?
Anyway, GRUSTLER, not to rub it in, but THANKS for linking us to this article that shoots down the following Floydiot arguments:
1. Bob Arum never wanted this fight
2. TMT & GoldenBoy never wanted to negotiate with Bob Arum
3. The Outdoor Arena was Bob's pipedream excuse made up after Floyd's jailtime (when it was actually Steve Wynn's idea in 2009).
'Nuff said.
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Floydie fanboys will never let it go. Of course I acknowledge he has skills, but his big mouth gets in the way, plus yes he has ducked Pac for years. And will never fight him. And like you say, Pac never brought up Floydie's legal problems when he was in jail for beating up the mother of his kids. But see Pac has some class. No amount of money will bring that to Floydie. He has none of it. And never will.Originally posted by MoneyLarry View PostComment
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Damn you people
I thought this would be good news to Mayweather. Seriously, easy payday since he can beat Pac easily. What?? You say Pac don't deserve it because he's been losing? So why Khan? Seriously, Mayweather contradicts himself so much, and I don't understand why his fans are also upset by this news when they should be happy that Pac is finally calling out Mayweather. The fight depends on you Money. You got all the power in the world to make this fight happen since you're the lb-4-lb King. How obvious can it be. Nuff said.Comment
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as a recently born boxing fan, i came into the boxing scene a fan of mayweather.
now... not so much...Comment
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U must be new to boxing. He tried making the fight years ago when he agreed to manny's terms. All he asked for was a blood test and PAC ran saying he was afraid of weakness and needles even though he has tattoos. Then came the 40 million dollar offer that he turned down. People say that was bull which it may have been, but has PAC made anything close to that. Then came the time where Floyd agreed to pacs terms again but PAC let bob arum come up with stadium idea. How come he didn't try this when he fought DLH? I think arum wasn't ready for Floyd so he made that excuse and June 1st deadline knowing Floyd couldn't do it.Originally posted by WARQUEZ View Post
Now since Floyd has slowed down, older, and PAC has tax issues now they want to fight. Freddie even said himself that Floyd has slower legs now so now they want to fight cause they feel they have the chance of beating him. So I guess that makes PAC great? Going after a guy now that he is older and out the door, when he could have fought him years ago. Someone please tell me what skills does pacquiao possess that will make him prevail against floydComment
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Yeah Gayeather has all the cards but still wont fight. COWARD
Originally posted by elcashanilla View PostComment
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the bottom line is pacman clearly wants to do this fight, mayweather, as usual still doesnt.
be funny when he announces khan as his opponent. could be making a career high payday but lets fight khan instead.Comment
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What the hell are you SMOKING??? Pacquiao got knock the faak out and now hes better than floyd??? still making excuses for Maynever?? We just want to see the fight. The biggest payday for both fighters and still wont fight
Originally posted by boxingfan4life View PostComment
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