Pacquiao not leaving Arum for Mayweather bout : inquirer.net

[Kagami Taiga]

Answer my Initial question. Which PPV sells better and why.

thats really not the point tho. sure canelo sells better than khan but khan will still sell. the b side matters but the b side only matters but so much. i never argued it didnt in fact. what i told u is u were looking at it wrong, which u clearly are. no matter how u cut it, floyd is the draw. and that point is even more so amplified now.

[ironmt]

except it doesnt. mayweather sold somewhere around a million ppvs with robert frikkin guerrero. now tell me he isnt the draw when manny couldnt even break 500k with rios. the reasoning u guys use is faulty. there is no doubt in anyones mind, floyd is the draw. if manny were to fight providnikov im april, i guarantee u it would not sell over 400k.

Why didn't Guerrero/Mayweather do the same kind of numbers that Alvarez/Mayweather did? Could It be that It takes two, as I stated In a previous post?

[The Big Dunn]

and what was their career high pay day? all the fighters that have fought floyd besides oscar didnt see anything pass 10mil so wtf are u talking about? like i said pac is not those guys that went and fought floyd for their career high pay day, pac is already making that amount fighting in a sparring session match type fight. can u name me one fighter that fought floyd besides oscar that ended up getting paid more than what manny is getting from top rank?????

so now because those guys career high payday wasn't more than $10 mil that means manny wont get that? come on man you are not being genuine. Besides, ODH definitely made more than $10 mil and so did Canelo.

The two offers floyd manny were 50/50 and then $40 mil-both well above $10 mil aso again, be genuine and stop pretending what you poste was valid or likely to happen.

Of course none of the other fighters would make more as a b side than Manny made at TR. Floyd didn't make that in the ODH fight. This point makes no sense. YOu are essentially saying because they didn't make $28 mil manny wont-even though both offers manny got far exceeded that total.

Come on dude. YOu can't even be genuine because you know it will make manny look bad.

[Kagami Taiga]

Why didn't Guerrero/Mayweather do the same kind of numbers that Alvarez/Mayweather did? Could It be that It takes two, as I stated In a previous post?

smh. u are still missing the point. if canelo fought manny, how many ppvs would it sell? would it sell anywhere near what floyd's sold? how about this, when u line up moth manny's and floyd's numbers vs. common opponenets, who sells more? u comparing 2 floyd ppvs says nothing about manny's sales in contrast to floyds. it tells half the story. sure it takes a big name for floyd to sell a massive ppv. but he still sells well without a big name.

[Evol]

so now because those guys career high payday wasn't more than $10 mil that means manny wont get that? come on man you are not being genuine. Besides, ODH definitely made more than $10 mil and so did Canelo.

The two offers floyd manny were 50/50 and then $40 mil-both well above $10 mil aso again, be genuine and stop pretending what you poste was valid or likely to happen.

Of course none of the other fighters would make more as a b side than Manny made at TR. Floyd didn't make that in the ODH fight. This point makes no sense. YOu are essentially saying because they didn't make $28 mil manny wont-even though both offers manny got far exceeded that total.

Come on dude. YOu can't even be genuine because you know it will make manny look bad.

i said besides oscar! learn to read buddy. and please explain to me why floyd would pay pac more than floyd's pass opponents?? why do u think floyd all of a sudden now always bring up pac's numbers when in the pass he never did?? so u think manny should leave top rank but u have no idea what manny will be making for sure if he was to leave top rank?? lol. man u guys are funny.

[ironmt]

smh. u are still missing the point. if canelo fought manny, how many ppvs would it sell? would it sell anywhere near what floyd's sold? how about this, when u line up moth manny's and floyd's numbers vs. common opponenets, who sells more? u comparing 2 floyd ppvs says nothing about manny's sales in contrast to floyds. it tells half the story. sure it takes a big name for floyd to sell a massive ppv. but he still sells well without a big name.

That was my whole point, you said It yourself, "It takes a big name for Floyd to sell a massive PPV. So why are you down playing Manny's significance? I never denied that Mayweather does big numbers on his own but again for the third time, It takes two.

[The Big Dunn]

i said besides oscar! learn to read buddy. and please explain to me why floyd would pay pac more than floyd's pass opponents?? why do u think floyd all of a sudden now always bring up pac's numbers when in the pass he never did?? so u think manny should leave top rank but u have no idea what manny will be making for sure if he was to leave top rank?? lol. man u guys are funny.

Man you sound utterly ridiculous. did tim and jMM know what they were making? of course not.

he would pay him more because 1, he offered more, and 2, fighters get paid based on what they bring to the table. Thats why canelo made more than cotto, who made more than Mosley, who made more than ghost. Again, why are you prenetending not to know this? Is absolving manny of his responsibility regarding making this fight made your only goal?

Floyd offered him more than $28 mil twice. SO for you to act like you think he'd get $10 mil or less is simply being fake just to try and justify a decision manny made that prevents the fight from happening.

[Evol]

Man you sound utterly ridiculous. did tim and jMM know what they were making? of course not.

he would pay him more because 1, he offered more, and 2, fighters get paid based on what they bring to the table. Thats why canelo made more than cotto, who made more than Mosley, who made more than ghost. Again, why are you prenetending not to know this? Is absolving manny of his responsibility regarding making this fight made your only goal?

Floyd offered him more than $28 mil twice. SO for you to act like you think he'd get $10 mil or less is simply being fake just to try and justify a decision manny made that prevents the fight from happening.

why do u act like those fighters made 10-15mil more than the others? like i said all those fighters didnt see anything pass 10+mil. floyd has a set price where he offer his opponents so now it depends on what manny bring to the table? so explain why all of a sudden floyd is bringing up pac's ppv numbers?? hmm could this be a way for him to use against manny IF a negotiation was to ever happen?

[Evol]

Man you sound utterly ridiculous. did tim and jMM know what they were making? of course not.

he would pay him more because 1, he offered more, and 2, fighters get paid based on what they bring to the table. Thats why canelo made more than cotto, who made more than Mosley, who made more than ghost. Again, why are you prenetending not to know this? Is absolving manny of his responsibility regarding making this fight made your only goal?

Floyd offered him more than $28 mil twice. SO for you to act like you think he'd get $10 mil or less is simply being fake just to try and justify a decision manny made that prevents the fight from happening.

again i aksed u is manny tim or marquez? tim was making chump change prior to signing with top rank and marquez, where else is he gonna go that will pay him the amount he is getting from TR? u're conmapring 2 guys getting paid chump change when they left their previous promoter to manny lol. the money manny will see from floyd will be the same as what he's already making with top rank and if anything it might even be less. u're blaming manny for the fight not happening because he wont leave his promoter?? can i asked u why he needs to leave his promoter?

[Mike D]

Good for Manny. F**k that little whored out diva. Why give in to that f@ggot? Either the Bieber bytch wants to make the fight or he don't. He don't. MP doesn't need Floyd at all. His legacy is already sealed.