Is joe Calzaghe worthy of IBHOF

[IronDanHamza]

He's boarderline for me.

I wouldn't vote for him.

[SN!PER]

Of course Calzaghe belongs in the IBHOF. Inferiors Bernard Hopkins Once Fought.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Easy in my opinion.

[Citizen Koba]

Yeah. He does.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No doubt,,, he is def a HOFer,,, he isnt an ATG, but def one of the top guys of his era...

Since 2000 he would be a top 10 p4p guy

Lineal champ in 2 divisions,,,,, enough said

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He's boarderline for me.

I wouldn't vote for him.

You dont think being a 2 division lineal champ is enough for a HOF induction..


I dont think he is an ATG, but most certainly a HOFer,

In his era, since 2000, i think he is one of the top 10 fighters p4p.. and i think the only guys clearly ahead of him are floyd, manny, roy, hopkins, and he owns a win over 2 of those guys albiet roy was old and shot....

Being a lineal champ is a great feat, but being 2 division lineal champ and being undefeated is a remarkable feat

H2h if same size, i would favor calzaghe over ward, winky, tito, tarver, pavlik, taylor, mosely, cotto, froch etc

Barrera and morales would be the level i put calzaghe on.....


Yes he cherrypicked alot, but also cleared out a division,


I just dont see how he isnt a HOFer IMO

[IronDanHamza]

You dont think being a 2 division lineal champ is enough for a HOF induction..


I dont think he is an ATG, but most certainly a HOFer,

In his era, since 2000, i think he is one of the top 10 fighters p4p.. and i think the only guys clearly ahead of him are floyd, manny, roy, hopkins, and he owns a win over 2 of those guys albiet roy was old and shot....

Being a lineal champ is a great feat, but being 2 division lineal champ and being undefeated is a remarkable feat

H2h if same size, i would favor calzaghe over ward, winky, tito, tarver, pavlik, taylor, mosely, cotto, froch etc

Barrera and morales would be the level i put calzaghe on.....


Yes he cherrypicked alot, but also cleared out a division,


I just dont see how he isnt a HOFer IMO

Depends, I don't think every 2 weight Lineal champion should be in the HOF, no.

I haven't got an issue with him getting in. He's boarderline IMO I.e I'd understand if he was and I'd understand if he wasn't.

Like I said, I wouldn't vote for him. His resume is just not strong so most of the times there's candidates that I'd vote for instead. For example this year my 3 candidates would have been Trinidad, Oscar and Kingpetch.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Depends, I don't think every 2 weight Lineal champion should be in the HOF, no.

I haven't got an issue with him getting in. He's boarderline IMO I.e I'd understand if he was and I'd understand if he wasn't.

Like I said, I wouldn't vote for him. His resume is just not strong so most of the times there's candidates that I'd vote for instead. For example this year my 3 candidates would have been Trinidad, Oscar and Kingpetch.

I get what your saying in your post,,, but for the bold,, what other 2 division lineal champs were there, that wasnt great HOF caliber fighters,,

One lineal championship can be achieved by lesser fighters ie baldomir, buster douglas, mayorga, etc... But i cant recall a 2 division lineal champ that wasnt HOF caliber,, what guys am i missing that were 2 div lineal champs, your knowledge of history goes way beyond mine, but i really cant think of a non-HOF guy that won 2 different lineal divisions,, When i think of multiple division lineal champs i think of armstrong, ross, duran, floyd, etc

[IronDanHamza]

I get what your saying in your post,,, but for the bold,, what other 2 division lineal champs were there, that wasnt great HOF caliber fighters,,

One lineal championship can be achieved by lesser fighters ie baldomir, buster douglas, mayorga, etc... But i cant recall a 2 division lineal champ that wasnt HOF caliber,, what guys am i missing that were 2 div lineal champs, your knowledge of history goes way beyond mine, but i really cant think of a non-HOF guy that won 2 different lineal divisions,, When i think of multiple division lineal champs i think of armstrong, ross, duran, floyd, etc

Donaire has two, I don't think he's a sure fire for the HOF.

I can't really think of any but it doesn't really matter that's just something that's on paper. "Lineal Champion" doesn't really mean all that much these days.

What matters the most to me is resume and Calzaghe's resume is simply not good enough for a sure-fire HOF'ers IMO. He's in now so what I say doesn't matter but he's far from what I'd consider a "definite" HOF'er. Atleast for his Boxing accomplishments.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Donaire has two, I don't think he's a sure fire for the HOF.

I can't really think of any but it doesn't really matter that's just something that's on paper. "Lineal Champion" doesn't really mean all that much these days.

What matters the most to me is resume and Calzaghe's resume is simply not good enough for a sure-fire HOF'ers IMO. He's in now so what I say doesn't matter but he's far from what I'd consider a "definite" HOF'er. Atleast for his Boxing accomplishments.

I disagree,, I think a lineal championship is about the only thing that is worth a damn anymore,,, all the paper titles n champs like hopkins beating cloud, oritz beating berto, etc,, those are meaningless IMO, but lineal is something that still holds prestige to me,, if someone beat ward at 168 or floyd at 147 or wlad, or garcia at 140, serg at 160, if you get a win like that, it should mean something,,, and Calzaghe did it twice,,,,, You cant name any low level fighters that accomplished that feat,,, its only HOF caliber guys
Calzaghe beat kessler who had 2 belts, and lacy had the 4th belt, plus bika who would become a paper champ,, then beating hopkins who beat tarver who beat roy jones,, Wins like those are terrific IMO

in terms of donaire, he will probably get in,, i dont think he is an ATG, and i think he beat alot of smaller guys or big guys that werent very good ie mathbalu,,,, Donaire truely showed his class vs rigo