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    #21
    Originally posted by Andre Wardttke View Post
    Dawson was undefeated IBF LHW champ, he'd beaten Tarver twice, Glen Jhnson and Tomasz Adamek. Many people were calling for that fight or the Pavlik fight, but he chose shot to shît Roy Jones Jr instead.
    OMG he chose to fight a shot Roy Jones on PPV for $10m instead of facing Dawson in a fight that 3 people would have watched. What a ****!

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      #22
      No question at all.

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        #23
        Does a bear deficate in the woods?

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          #24
          International (he is) Boxing (he boxed) Hall of Fame (he was famous)

          Why not? Everyone else is getting in.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            OMG he chose to fight a shot Roy Jones on PPV for $10m instead of facing Dawson in a fight that 3 people would have watched. What a ****!
            That's fine, it detracts from his legacy though and served to further pad out his record.

            As a boxing fan I'd rather see more competitive match ups, I'm not too concerned with what the fighters earn. I'm old school like that.
            Last edited by Targaryen; 01-09-2014, 03:50 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Andre Wardttke View Post
              That's fine, it detracts from his legacy though and served to further pad out his record.

              As a boxing fan I'd rather see more competitive match ups, I'm not too concerned with what the fighters earn. I'm old school like that.
              It's not about being "old school", it's about being logical and using critical thinking. No "old school" boxer would turn down $10m either. There's not one person who would choose to fight Chad Dawson over a PPV fight with Roy Jones. Not one. Lets also remember that Dawson was coming off getting battered round the ring by Johnson, his stock was not as high as history likes to revise it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Scary View Post
                How can you honestly compare these two? Joe had 21 titledefences. You don't come there by sleeping.

                Ofcourse he should go in the HOF, there's no doubt about it.

                Eubank
                Woodhall
                Reid
                Sheika
                Kessler
                Bika
                Lacy
                Hopkins

                Who did he miss?

                Pavlik
                Hopkins rematch

                There's not really a case for him ducking Dawson, Froch or Ward as none of them were established profiles on the scene.
                to be fair though, he shouldn't have ever fought manfredo. Dawson or Froch wasnt ready but Manfredo was?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Andre Wardttke View Post
                  Dawson was undefeated IBF LHW champ, he'd beaten Tarver twice, Glen Jhnson and Tomasz Adamek. Many people were calling for that fight or the Pavlik fight, but he chose shot to shît Roy Jones Jr instead.

                  Calzaghe deserves his place in the IBHOF though, I'd just wish he'd gone out on a good win.
                  Yeah he definitely ducked Glen Johnson during his career, that right, I forgot that. But I don't think there was any demand for him to fight Dawson by that time. LHW was starved, didn't really have any stars. He should have fought Pavlik and not Jones to enhance his legacy. It would really have dwarfed Wards legacy (which is closing in fast) if he had taken a last bout against Froch to finish things off, but nobody in the world knew what Froch would go on to become. Resume is not perfect by any means, even though the zero suggests it, it's enough to get into HOF.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by emurgencee View Post
                    to be fair though, he shouldn't have ever fought manfredo. Dawson or Froch wasnt ready but Manfredo was?
                    Manfredo had some US leverage, by being in a tv-show ( the contender I think ), so it made sense money wise, not legacy wise. At that point, nobody really paid much attention to Froch or Dawson.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Scary View Post
                      Yeah he definitely ducked Glen Johnson during his career, that right, I forgot that. But I don't think there was any demand for him to fight Dawson by that time. LHW was starved, didn't really have any stars. He should have fought Pavlik and not Jones to enhance his legacy. It would really have dwarfed Wards legacy (which is closing in fast) if he had taken a last bout against Froch to finish things off, but nobody in the world knew what Froch would go on to become. Resume is not perfect by any means, even though the zero suggests it, it's enough to get into HOF.
                      I would of liked to see the Dawson fight but wasn't mad at Joe for going for the money against Roy. Garbage win though.

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