Holyfield deserves a reward

[Humean]

lol good one

I'm not a Christian myself nor much of a fan of Christianity but there are and have been numerous Christian Nobel Laureates.

[billeau2]

Instead of criticizing Holyfield for his comments on ******ry, people should be preparing a reward for him. At least he has the balls to state what he believes in rather than submit to the modern-day *******ual propaganda agenda. Holyfield is the man!

Yeah the political correct fascism is a real b1tch. We should call it what it really is: censorship

[daggum]

I'm not a Christian myself nor much of a fan of Christianity but there are and have been numerous Christian Nobel Laureates.

yeah but they also gave the nobel peace prize to a guy who authorizes bombing innocent people so i don't trust their judgement. they lost all their credibility just like the boxing hall of fame when it elected joe calzaghe.

[Hanton11]

Yeah the political correct fascism is a real b1tch. We should call it what it really is: censorship

Umm, has he actually been silenced though? His views were put out on tv and not removed (it wasn't live) for millions to listen to. He didn't receive any punishment other than a warning that his words could cause offense.

Criticism =/= Censoring

[Humean]

yeah but they also gave the nobel peace prize to a guy who authorizes bombing innocent people so i don't trust their judgement. they lost all their credibility just like the boxing hall of fame when it elected joe calzaghe.

The Peace prize is far less respectable than their other prizes, mainly because the Peace prize is very politically driven unlike the other prizes. To win the Noble prize in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine and Economics means you are in the forefront of science.

Oh and don't bait me about Calzaghe!

[LacedUp]

So according to you a right doesn't exist, lol.

All of that blabber to prove my point. A right will always have to be recognized by a government or a constitution. A privilege is something that you have to qualify for, it has to be be granted and it can be denied, it can also be taken away for any reason.

Right, so freedom of speech is not a birth right in China. Would you say it would be a privilege if someone was granted the freedom of speech in China? Yes you would, because it wasn't granted before. Now, the american constitution has granted their inhabitants the freedom of speech - that does not mean it is a birth right for a human being - the only true rights.

See, I don't have to regurgitate what I've read on Google 5 minutes ago to form an opinion on this. You simply cannot hang with me in this discussion by pulling up Google privilege definitions. As I said before, freedom of speech is a privilege given to inhabitants by various governments around the world. It is also recognized as a human right, but is one of the most disputed ones, even with exceptions recognized by FN.

It is also disputed by law in many cases. As per instance, and this could be the wrong person mind you, I believe the guitarist from queen once sued a newspaper for assuming he was gay and won. The newspaper filed for freedom of speech, the man filed for libel. He won. Why? Because freedom of speech is not an unconditional right. See where this is going?

Small minded people will resort to claiming they have a right to say whatever babel that comes to their mind, citing freedom of speech, when the right was given to people to protect their liberty - not discriminate against ********** (which is also illegal in many countries in the world including Britain and many european nations).

No I am not a practicing christian but I grew up in a christian family and the very definition of being a christian is living by what the bible says. You don't say you are a christian and say yhat the bible is outdated, flawed or mistranlated you are supposed to have faith that this is all the word of God. So you can't be a christian and ignore what is not convinient to you in the bible.

Also, Evander or anyone who doesn't share your views is not advocating discrimination or hate. They just don't approve of *******ual behavior and are not willing to support it in anyway, shape or form.

You are not a practicing Christian, but you think you have the position to tell me I'm not a Christian based on the fact that I don't believe it's right to discriminate, even though some perceptions of the bible will have you know that God didn't mean for man and man to be together.

It has nothing to do with what's convenient in the bible. The bible isn't meant for Christians to follow word for word. It's a book written by man, not by God! Extremists will follow the word of the bible to pin points, and wish to tell everyone else they aren't Christians because they don't live by the same standards as they do.

Guess what my friend, it is not up to you.

Also, Evander or anyone who doesn't share your views is not advocating discrimination or hate. They just don't approve of *******ual behavior and are not willing to support it in anyway, shape or form.

Dude are you serious with this ****? I couldn't give a crap about what evander holyfield thinks about gay people. It's the fact that he says it in public, putting *******uals at risk for further discrimination. How can you not get that?

[Weltschmerz]

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Really? That's all you got?

[trixx12]

Holyfield deserves award.*******ualtiy is disgusting yuck.

[Weltschmerz]

Holyfield deserves award.*******ualtiy is disgusting yuck.

You don't have to engage in it

[BMWM3P]

Right, so freedom of speech is not a birth right in China. Would you say it would be a privilege if someone was granted the freedom of speech in China? Yes you would, because it wasn't granted before. Now, the american constitution has granted their inhabitants the freedom of speech - that does not mean it is a birth right for a human being - the only true rights.

See, I don't have to regurgitate what I've read on Google 5 minutes ago to form an opinion on this. You simply cannot hang with me in this discussion by pulling up Google privilege definitions. As I said before, freedom of speech is a privilege given to inhabitants by various governments around the world. It is also recognized as a human right, but is one of the most disputed ones, even with exceptions recognized by FN.







Dude are you serious with this ****? I couldn't give a crap about what evander holyfield thinks about gay people. It's the fact that he says it in public, putting *******uals at risk for further discrimination. How can you not get that?

LOL, you are reaching last time I checked it wasn't Evander Ling it's Holyfield, an american citizen, expressing his right to free speech. And true rights, please, what a tard.


Hang with you!!!! Ha,ha this must be a joke. Weren't you the same idiot that told me to look up the definition of privilege?

I gave you what you asked for, not that I needed for myself but you made it cristal clear that you obviously didn't know what the word means. I have clearly destroyed your argument that I didn't know what a right is and you did. You have not answered one of my points and are just trying to walk back your ridiculous statement. Which in the proccess you have led you to contradict yourself and desperately resort to semantics to try to prove your point.


What else can you expect from a christian that doesn't believe in the bible or is it an atheist that believes in God.