Why doesn't Floyd do business with Bob Arum

[Evol]

From my understanding Bob Arum wasnt willing to play ball especially when it came to drug testing, we had conflicting reports from Manny, Roach and Arum.

I dont blame Floyd for getting fed up, sometimes two parties cant do business and its better to cut ur losses then to waste ur time fighting over ego's.

In hindsight Manny is now happy to do all types of drug testing since he was knocked out cold by JMM, had he just played ball back then, the fight would have already happened possibly a rematch

It was manny who refused ost because of the cut off, again what does any of this have to do with arum?? Floyd has been on record in numerous interview telling manny to take the test, floyd even made shirts that says take the test! How come we didn't see Any leave arum first tshirts from Floyd before?? U said u don't blame Floyd for being fed up because of arum? So how do u think PAC feels being accused of cheating from Floyd??

[AboutBillions]

Umm he's not going to be fighting for arum like manny is so why would that matter to Floyd?? And Floyd always knew that about arum, why do u think he left In the first place? So ur saying Floyd Only now starting to see that aim is a snake so that's why he doesn't wanna do business with arum? Bob is the same since 09 so why wasn't bob a problem then lmao!!

Serious question, would you say Manny is ducking Floyd if he extends his contract with Arum Before a floyd fight?

[radioraheem]

That's the odd thing. We never get a satisfactory answer for this. Even Espinoza comes out and says the fight can't happen while Pac is with Arum.

OK. Why?

Because Floyd doesn't like Arum?

I mean, is that a good enough reason? Really?

If this was anyone but Floyd, it'd be a completely unacceptable answer. Imagine if Pac didn't want to fight Floyd because for example, let's say Floyd was with Murad Muhammed.

However, because it's Floyd, somehow it's OK that he doesn't want to fight a guy because of who the other guy's promoter is.

Can anyone think of another example of this?

I mean, really....it comes down to this. Floyd doesn't want Pac or Arum making a dime off him. Remember what 50 Cent (yeah, I know, I'm quoting 50) - that Floyd is obsessed with not just how much money HE makes, but how much money OTHERS make.

I don't think he's scared of Pac but I think the idea Pac and Arum making a killing in a fight of his burns him up. Of course, he lacks the emotional maturity to understand that Pac is a fundamental part of the money that would generate.

But he just doesn't want to give Pac/Arum a payday.

And I think that's what it comes down to.

And that's not acceptable to me. But hey, I'm not one of his millions of enablers.

You waste a lot of time thinking. There's only two answers you need to be concerned with -- yes or no. Floyd's answer today is NO. Anything to explain that is just blah blah because the only answer that matters is NO.

[FrankieBruno]

It was manny who refused ost because of the cut off, again what does any of this have to do with arum?? Floyd has been on record in numerous interview telling manny to take the test, floyd even made shirts that says take the test! How come we didn't see Any leave arum first tshirts from Floyd before?? U said u don't blame Floyd for being fed up because of arum? So how do u think PAC feels being accused of cheating from Floyd??

From my understanding when Floyd tried to talk to Pac, he passed the phone to Arum.

So Arum was doing all the talking. Judging by Pacs tax issues, it seems to me Arum is in full control of Pac, i dont think Pac has any control over his finances or his career, Arum says jump, Pac jumps.


When was the last time Floyd an Arum worked together? give me a date fella

[Evol]

Serious question, would you say Manny is ducking Floyd if he extends his contract with Arum Before a floyd fight?

Nope, why would that make him duck Floyd?? Pac's been with arum how long now?? U think PAC doesn't wanna eat too? With arum all pac has to do is show up and fight. If PAC leave arum and is a free agent do u think PAC is capable of being successful in boxing? PAC wouldn't know what to do or who to call lmao!

[brick wall]

it's greed plain and simple. if they can have the whole pie for themselves, why share it with arum as a co-promoter?

they also know they can't outsmart arum in any kind of negotiations that's why they want him out of it.

[PrinceCharlez]

So Floyd had no intention to fight when negotiations took place?
Was he making up excuses to not fight manny?
Because in the end he would never do business with Bob Arum no matter what him and manny had agreed on.

I think.....and this is just my personal opinion. I think floyd wanted the fight but I don't think he wanted the fight. (Not cause he scared of manny). I think the media put pressure on floyd as an individual to get the fight done. But floyd is smart. He knew if he demanded a blood test arum wasn't going to allow floyd to dictate his fighters (rather manny was on roids or not i don't know) and the fight never got made. In Floyd's defense i got to say he has tried numerous times to make the fight. He called manny himself and tried to make the fight but manny said no. I believe if manny wasn't with top rank this fight would've taken place years ago...

I think manny should leave top rank, not only to make the fight but to end his career fighting good fights...

No one wants to keep seeing Marquez and Bradley fight manny..

[Evol]

From my understanding when Floyd tried to talk to Pac, he passed the phone to Arum.

So Arum was doing all the talking. Judging by Pacs tax issues, it seems to me Arum is in full control of Pac, i dont think Pac has any control over his finances or his career, Arum says jump, Pac jumps.


When was the last time Floyd an Arum worked together? give me a date fella

Dude what is wrong with u? I asked what does any of that have to do with not wanting to work with arum?? So ur telling me arum was there with PAC in the Philippines? Lmao! Please just stop lol. Floyd and arum hasn't worked together since they both parted ways that's why I'm asking if arum was this big of a problem then why wasn't arum a problem before? Arum only became a problem to Floyd in towards the end of 2013 I wonder why???

[Evol]

it's greed plain and simple. if they can have the whole pie for themselves, why share it with arum as a co-promoter?

they also know they can't outsmart arum in any kind of negotiations that's why they want him out of it.

This... Hate arum all u want but he is not a dumbazz.

[AboutBillions]

Nope, why would that make him duck Floyd?? Pac's been with arum how long now?? U think PAC doesn't wanna eat too? With arum all pac has to do is show up and fight. If PAC leave arum and is a free agent do u think PAC is capable of being successful in boxing? PAC wouldn't know what to do or who to call lmao!

Not saying he should leave Daddy Arum forever, He can just work with GoldenBoy for 1 fight or more. Then go back. He Know's Floyd will NEVER do business with Arum, so if Manny resigns without at the least contacting GoldenBoy i would see it as a DUCK.