Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: If Pacquiao is Clean, Ass Gets Whooped!

[ADP02]

Imagine if Brandon had tried to delay the fight by making drug testing demands for cut-off days and weeks????

He'd be called every name in the book except for "punching bag".

Not really. Rios actually has been caught taking drugs and it got little attention compared to Manny, who never did get tested positive.

Also, how many discussions have you and other Floyd fans had about Hopkins, who refused to take PEDs testing when asked to by his opponent? Is Hopkins a PEDs user? Do you care? I don't think you care unless Hopkins fights Floyd and Hopkins refuses ..... only then will you be after Hopkins as you are after Manny!

[mrjoeblive]

Showed you proof about Floyd. Now I think it's time that I ask for your proof that Manny took PEDs ...... So where is the PROOF?

You should be asking of Floyd the same questions. Why did it take 40+ fights to start getting tested? Maybe he was guilty? How about the rumors that he tested positive 3 times? Maybe he was guilty? How about Floyd admitting to taking drugs prior to a fight. I even supplied you with proof that Floyd will take drugs!!!

My statement was slightly off but was in the ballpark and does NOT make a difference. Manny wanted 24 and Floyd wanted 14. See below for more proof.

So Manny was OK with extra drug testing and that included testing with no cutoff dates for urine samples.

Good post but 24 days is the same as 30 in that you can cycle a ped in that time and still test clean for the post fight urine test. Victor Conte was referenced plenty of times as he is an athority on peds and helped shane mosley avoid detection for years. In the video you posted you state the proof is at the 56 min mark. The problem is your video only has 18 minutes. But I will look that video up on you tube. Props to you for using proof to make your argument. I respect that.

[lfc19titles]

Hey Snr why did Floyd refuse to reveal his test results in court instead paying Pac millions and saying sorry to hide his results


Hmmmmm

[mrjoeblive]

Not really. Rios actually has been caught taking drugs and it got little attention compared to Manny, who never did get tested positive.

Also, how many discussions have you and other Floyd fans had about Hopkins, who refused to take PEDs testing when asked to by his opponent? Is Hopkins a PEDs user? Do you care? I don't think you care unless Hopkins fights Floyd and Hopkins refuses ..... only then will you be after Hopkins as you are after Manny!

I do care. You might be different but how do you think it would play out in not just boxing sites but main stream media if it were floyd who refused ost when asked by pac? You know he would be the devil. Lots of pac fans made fun of floyd for aski g for ost only to turn around and demand it for jmm. Any boxer who refuses to take ost is suspect to me not just pac. And I have been su****ious of B-hop for some time. He is 66 years old and still at a high level. I just dont buy it me personally.

[Cuban Linx]

Lawsuit incoming...

[chardrnm]

Alright Floyd Sr. tell your son and convince him to fight Pacquiao now.

[ADP02]

Good post but 24 days is the same as 30 in that you can cycle a ped in that time and still test clean for the post fight urine test. Victor Conte was referenced plenty of times as he is an athority on peds and helped shane mosley avoid detection for years. In the video you posted you state the proof is at the 56 min mark. The problem is your video only has 18 minutes. But I will look that video up on you tube. Props to you for using proof to make your argument. I respect that.

I also stated that they could have split the difference between them. It didn't have to be exactly 14 nor 24 days. Perhaps 17-18 days for blood and no cut-offs for urine.

Lance Armstrong proved that even with OST, one can get away with it. So there is always a way to defeat it, if you try, if you take it and if you know which technique works. Even Marquez's conditioning trainer said he knows of 20 ways and has actually passed OST in the past for his athletes. So again, we are splitting hairs here.

The fact of the matter is that Manny accepted "extra testing" and later accepted 14 days and later 7 and later no cutoff dates. Do we have a fight? NO!!!

Manny was also willing to take less money to get the fight on. Do we have a fight? NO!!!

Even with today's version of Manny, we still don't have a fight!

Floyd is waiting for the correct formula then and only then will this fight have any chance. Not a day sooner!

[MindBat]

Not really. Rios actually has been caught taking drugs and it got little attention compared to Manny, who never did get tested positive.

Also, how many discussions have you and other Floyd fans had about Hopkins, who refused to take PEDs testing when asked to by his opponent? Is Hopkins a PEDs user? Do you care? I don't think you care unless Hopkins fights Floyd and Hopkins refuses ..... only then will you be after Hopkins as you are after Manny!

Actually, yes Rios was suspended.

I don't really follow Bhop which is why I don't comment much about him, though I respect his skills. But if he outright refuses random drug testing then it looks bad on him knowing how easy it is to juice up and hide it these days.

I'm sure he's well aware of how much more effective random drug testing is compared to normal athletic commission testing.

[ADP02]

I do care. You might be different but how do you think it would play out in not just boxing sites but main stream media if it were floyd who refused ost when asked by pac? You know he would be the devil. Lots of pac fans made fun of floyd for aski g for ost only to turn around and demand it for jmm. Any boxer who refuses to take ost is suspect to me not just pac. And I have been su****ious of B-hop for some time. He is 66 years old and still at a high level. I just dont buy it me personally.

Again, Manny didn't refuse "extra testing". They didn't agree on the cutoff dates. Floyd's 14 days was not some golden standard. Hence they negotiated and couldn't come to an agreement on blood testing but Manny was OK with no cutoffs for urine.

My point was that Rios got less news by Floyd and his fans than Manny with no proof.

Floyd gets what he gets because he says things like "All he has to do is take the test AND WE HAVE A FIGHT!" then Manny agrees to testing and Floyd comes up with other roadblocks!

[mrjoeblive]

I also stated that they could have split the difference between them. It didn't have to be exactly 14 nor 24 days. Perhaps 17-18 days for blood and no cut-offs for urine.

Lance Armstrong proved that even with OST, one can get away with it. So there is always a way to defeat it, if you try, if you take it and if you know which technique works. Even Marquez's conditioning trainer said he knows of 20 ways and has actually passed OST in the past for his athletes. So again, we are splitting hairs here.

The fact of the matter is that Manny accepted "extra testing" and later accepted 14 days and later 7 and later no cutoff dates. Do we have a fight? NO!!!

Manny was also willing to take less money to get the fight on. Do we have a fight? NO!!!

Even with today's version of Manny, we still don't have a fight!

Floyd is waiting for the correct formula then and only then will this fight have any chance. Not a day sooner!

We are splitting hairs here. 1mthing being ignored is pac hasnt fought outside of top rank in a least 3 years. Floyd is not afraid of pac, pac is not afraid of floyd. Bob arum makes more money doing in house fight as opposed to sharing promotion of a match. Its much cheaper as there are no massive fees to be paid and he tells each fighter what they make. And he keeps all the ppv money and all other profits. I still think when the fight gets made floyd will beat the crap outta pac. Its not pac or floyd its arum. Pac always saysnits up to bob arum so no matter what pac says, its all about arum.