Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[The Big Dunn]

who's fault is that then?? cotto is a free agent remember. so arum was negotiating for both cotto and canelo? so canelo bow down and agreed to all of cotto's terms? why do u act like canelo was set and ready to go BUT arum phucked it up by asking for too much money, etc. LOL!!!!! just stop it dunn.

I'm not acting like anything, you are just pretending so you can argue. the point is simple-if you refuse to understand it or make it something else, so be it.

right now Floyd nor Manny is doing anything anyone can say is derailing the fight from being made. the only one who is doing that is Bob.

Only a few diehard pac fans-you, ryann, spoon23, hype job, jjsmyth87, and a few others will not acknowledge this. instead you guys give us stuff like-"planning to go on vacation prevents fight from getting signed."

When you are ready to face reality come join the rest of us.

[Evol]

I'm not acting like anything, you are just pretending so you can argue. the point is simple-if you refuse to understand it or make it something else, so be it.

right now Floyd nor Manny is doing anything anyone can say is derailing the fight from being made. the only one who is doing that is Bob.

Only a few diehard pac fans-you, ryann, spoon23, hype job, jjsmyth87, and a few others will not acknowledge this. instead you guys give us stuff like-"planning to go on vacation prevents fight from getting signed."

When you are ready to face reality come join the rest of us.

why are u jumping around the main question? i dont care who's at fault for not making floyd/pac. i wasnt even talking about that until u brought it up. i quoted u asking u how is it arum's fault for not making cotto/canelo? i already admit arum is part of the blame for not making the floyd/pac fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Can anyone give me anytime a fight like this wasn't made because of the promoters or the networks???? Where both fighters really wanted the fight??? ANYONE????????? Its bull, if this fight doesn't happen its coz Floyd don't want it, nobody else has got any other motivation to bypass this fight. Floyd wants to say he did the best he could to get the fight an go undefeated. For £300 mill this fight WILL happen if both fighters want it.

have you ever seen a fight like this where all parties are pointing to the actions of one promoter as a deterrent to getting things done.

[Evol]

I'm not acting like anything, you are just pretending so you can argue. the point is simple-if you refuse to understand it or make it something else, so be it.

right now Floyd nor Manny is doing anything anyone can say is derailing the fight from being made. the only one who is doing that is Bob.

Only a few diehard pac fans-you, ryann, spoon23, hype job, jjsmyth87, and a few others will not acknowledge this. instead you guys give us stuff like-"planning to go on vacation prevents fight from getting signed."

When you are ready to face reality come join the rest of us.

u see what i mean. its getting to u dunn.

[Hype job]

I'm not acting like anything, you are just pretending so you can argue. the point is simple-if you refuse to understand it or make it something else, so be it.

right now Floyd nor Manny is doing anything anyone can say is derailing the fight from being made. the only one who is doing that is Bob.

Only a few diehard pac fans-you, ryann, spoon23, hype job, jjsmyth87, and a few others will not acknowledge this. instead you guys give us stuff like-"planning to go on vacation prevents fight from getting signed."

When you are ready to face reality come join the rest of us.

He's being a bit of a cvnt but I don't believe he's trying to derail the fight.

I think it's more of a case of him being worried that Mayweather will walk.

[Evol]

have you ever seen a fight like this where all parties are pointing to the actions of one promoter as a deterrent to getting things done.

dunn, look around a lot and i mean A LOT of people is pointing the finger at floyd. and im not just talking about people on this site. so are all those people pac fans then? LOL!! i mean floyd could very well be doing everything in his power to make the fight, but u see, his actions speaks different. and i think thats what people is looking at.

[The Big Dunn]

why are u jumping around the main question? i dont care who's at fault for not making floyd/pac. i wasnt even talking about that until u brought it up. i quoted u asking u how is it arum's fault for not making cotto/canelo? i already admit arum is part of the blame for not making the floyd/pac fight.

I never said it was, just that he failed to get it done. which was part of a larger point about his media leaks messing things up. you are parsing that out just to make some silly argument as a means to defend Bob.

Really no point to this. If we get more information I will review it and come back.

[Evol]

I never said it was, just that he failed to get it done. which was part of a larger point about his media leaks messing things up. you are parsing that out just to make some silly argument as a means to defend Bob.

Really no point to this. If we get more information I will review it and come back.

and thats why i was asking u was arum negotiating for both cotto and canelo?? so canelo had no one to represent him right? and they werent making any of their own request right? canelo's side agreed to everything cotto wanted but dummy arum phucked it up by saying the fight needs to be in PR right? and thats when canelo walked right? LOL

[The Big Dunn]

He's being a bit of a cvnt but I don't believe he's trying to derail the fight. I think it's more of a case of him being worried that Mayweather will walk.

when has Floyd ever walked away from a deal for this fight?

dunn, look around a lot and i mean A LOT of people is pointing the finger at floyd. and im not just talking about people on this site. so are all those people pac fans then? LOL!! i mean floyd could very well be doing everything in his power to make the fight, but u see, his actions speaks different. and i think thats what people is looking at.

I'm not referring to anyone outside of NSB. Within NSB, since we have the new info, most are pointing at Bob, except for the few I listed.

Like I said, when we get more info, then we can update opinions. AS of now, you can blame all 3 if you wish. I haven't seen anything Floyd or Manny has done since the meeting to derail the fight.

[Twako]

have you ever seen a fight like this where all parties are pointing to the actions of one promoter as a deterrent to getting things done.

what parties? an unnamed source by iole as compared to the hbo president himself?

todd getting irate at bob? that's for talking to the media while negotiations are going on, NOT lying.

pac's team? same as above.

you fl()m()s rejoice whenever there's news that the fight is nowhere near getting made, even if it's from unnamed sources