Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[SamuraiSam]

He's made the challenge because he know Mayweather will not fight for free. He's not serious.

Oh I believe he's serious alright. His character has shown he's a man of his words and convictions. It's a win-win challenge for Manny. If the fight gets made on his terms he wins and succeeds in turning a historic record breaking fight into an unprecedented benefit for worldwide fans and charitable organizations; or, If the fight does not get made, he wins by exposing who's the most fraudulent one, who just pays lip service in his lie that he does it for the fans, much less for charity.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Typical Floydiot logic/comprehension.

1. Manny challenges Floyd to rumble for the fans and worldwide charities (not because he needs to pay his taxes, which is Floyd's latest excuse, in addition to Arum).

2. Floydiot conclusion: "This just goes to show Pacquiao has no interest in making the fight."

Huh???? Pacquiao on record wanting to fight = no interest in making the fight. Brilliant conclusion.

As for your question, I for one believe Manny is willing to fight for free/charity, and I expect Money to do the same if he really wants to produce the fight everyone has ben clamoring for. To not comply indicates either: 1. he doesn't truly care about the fans or, 2. he cares more about his health. Which one would you guess if Floyd says no?

Floyd "Money" Mayweather should pass up $100 million for the fans...lmaoooooooo. Thanks for the laugh, bud. I'll give you some green k

[SamuraiSam]

And now the escalation begins... Had floyd been quiet about manny this shouldn't have been happening. The man is down and out already, finance trouble, PPV trouble, and all sorts of trouble; a perfect situation for floyd to just continue to shine until retirement. And now he will be back in agonizing, demoralizing, irritating situation where pacman will be mentioned at his face all the time, those constipated cringing look every time a TV. host or any boxing analyst asks him about: when will he fight manny will surely be back again.

Floyd-iots/floyd-******s are hard at work day and night on covering his tracks of cowardice, they are even positioning him higher in an argument of who got the best resume between the two; I have laugh a lot everytime these threads came up because it's clearly a trap of *******s, but floydiots have been miraculously get ****** into these threads every damn time; when clearly it's a losing situation for them. In the end, floyd has not rewarded his floyd-iots efforts by just keeping quiet about manny and stop saying ****** degrading things about the man; --who's clearly been down and out already, and now, it appears, he's soon to be checked mate.

What could be the end of all of this? Could floyd retire, knowing that he has become the ultimate coward the sport has even seen? -- because no one has duck more clearly in the history of boxing than what he is doing right now. Clearly the guy is ducking, no matter what side of the picture you're seeing. Or, would he finally, summon all the gods and defeat cowardice and face manny and suck all the punishment to get the win in the end? Let's find out in the coming months or years maybe...

You got that straight. The boy didn't 't know when to shut up with the demeaning insults, forgetting once again that karma is a b1tch.

[IST-ra-GLEr2]

floyd doesnt do charity all he does are obvious cheap PR stunts

[SamuraiSam]

Reading comprehension helps try it. What Manny trying to say to counter Money's repeated claims about the reason why Manny wants to fight him is because Manny is desperate for money to pay his tax, is to fight him and donate the proceedings to charity around the world. So basically, manny is saying to Floyd, "let's fight for the sake of fans I don't need the money to show you I'm not desperate about money, I'm desperate to whoop your A55" get it?

That sums it up very well.

[SamuraiSam]

What is funny is how supposed boxing fans are jumping on any scrap of media they can find and claiming some kind of "victory" in their silly little internet war. Worse than a bunch of women and their Hello ****zines talking about the "he said, she said".

What is also funny is how some people's minds work. Mayweather makes Pacquiao an actual (by actual conversation) offer of 40 mil, no PPV. The offer is refused. Some criticise the offer as rubbish (it was without doubt) and it is preclaimed as a duck because it was an offer that was made knowing it would be refused. Pacquiao supposedly makes an "offer" (really a random article, not even close to actually being made, and people know he never actually would make it in reality) to fight for nothing. The same people look at the"move" (just talk and nothing more) as something praise worthy. The "offer" will be refused and everyone knows it will. Yet, the refusal is criticised and not the BS offer? So this time, the offer that was made (through media) KNOWING it would be refused is not a duck?? Very consistent indeed.

Funnier still is the thought that if Mayweather doesn't call Pacquiao's bluff in this pseudo-negotiation, he's ducking. Whereas, Pacquaio refused to call Mayweather's bluff and walked from testing (with 50/50 on the table), and he refused to call his bluff for 40 mil flat and that is not ducking?

One fighter is a hero to desperate sycophants for making imaginary offers while turning down real ones, while another is the villain for making real offers while ignoring imaginary ones. Interesting......

Sometimes the media can be more trustworthy than the words coming out of Floyd's mouth. And from my observation, whenever a media story is wrong it's oftentimes because they were reporting the words coming out of Floyds mouth more often than Manny's. Who can forget FloydHype.com's *****eting Floyd's "Manny Pacquiao, you're next!" versus other media's report of "Um um I never said that, I never said that at all, so don't be putting words in my mouth..." I beg Floydfans and/or Floydiots to please link me to two opposing stories showing Manny lying in the same manner as Floyd.

So it's only "desperate sycophants"" who want to see this fight get made? Then what do you call the people who keep finding excuses for the fight NOT being made? "Floyd's enablers"? And why do you assume it's an "imaginary" offer? Is it too hard for you to believe...so impossible for you to accept it as a reality that it must be your imagination at play?

One of your cohorts posted it one time, and it helps explain to all the Floyd enablers why your feelings & perceptions have been rattled & all shook up. It's called "cognizant dissonance." Read about it for yourself from your compatriot's own post at:
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[SamuraiSam]

Why didn't he want to "whoop that ass" so bad he'd undergo random testing with no cut off? Or accept 40 mil flat fee? If it really is all for the fans.

That was back then, we're in the here and now in addressing Floyd's latest rationalization spouted in "the Motherland."

[SERVILEV]

Has it ever really occurred to some of you Mayweather groupies that Pacquiao might actually simply want to fight Mayweather, just to fight him. And Mayweather might actually just have a feeling that Pacquiao may really have his number? There is a such a thing ppl getting fed up w a situation and resort to doing things that aren't common or are unusual. Now granted if Mayweather had thought of this idea, would his groupies not think it was brilliant ? I believe this whole thing has been moral war between the two more than anything else. Mayweather call his bluff, if Pacquiao isn't for real then it all washes out. If not then fight for charity at least it'll be for good causes around the world. Is there really an issue with that? I'm sure some will find an issue regardless.

[SamuraiSam]

You're right on both points. It is fantasy and Pacquiao would be a big hero if he did do it.

It leads to my next question. If it Pacquiao was serious, why not say he'd devote his purse to charity and let Mayweather do what he wants with his share? Asking Mayweather to fight for free is making an offer he KNOWS would be refused. I've heard people say that is a duck move (like offering 40 million dollars to a star of equal standing).

Why? Because he wants Floyd to prove he's on the "same level" (see how karma works?) with him, on his level of being a genuinely selfless humanitarian vs being the greedy, egomaniacal, self-centered diva he's currently being in withholding the fight from fans.

[SamuraiSam]

Why would Manny give Floyd another ammo to use to belittle him? Just straight up give away the proceedings to charity to avoid any excuses. Or Floyd could say ok, Manny what about leave me ten mil and the rest is for Charity? If Manny say ok let's do it, you think Floyd will still go for it?

That scenario just described a typical negotiation. Why was that so hard, Floyd?