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Is Zab Judah a HOF?
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Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View PostDamn,I mean there are less accomplished fihgters in the HOF then Judah..Judah did win the WW ring belt..
He was undisputed champ at WW and won a belt at jr. WW twice, but he lacks a real career defining win. His best wins are Witter, Corley, Spinks and Matthysse. His eight losses came against elite opposition (with the exception of Baldomir), and he was competitive in most of them.
Overall he has won five belts in two classes, has some decent wins, and his losses are nothing to be ashamed of, but he lost his biggest fights, and hasn't beaten anyone he wasn't "supposed to" beat (except maybe Spinks in the rematch).
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Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View PostTrue. No man in here can say they didn't love a good Rocky movie.
Plus, the fact that you keep hearing, "this is a real life Rocky story", shows the type of impact that movie made on society in general.
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Originally posted by Black Barty View PostWith today's low HOF standards, he might sneak in, but I would say no.
He was undisputed champ at WW and won a belt at jr. WW twice, but he lacks a real career defining win. His best wins are Witter, Corley, Spinks and Matthysse. His eight losses came against elite opposition (with the exception of Baldomir), and he was competitive in most of them.
Overall he has won five belts in two classes, has some decent wins, and his losses are nothing to be ashamed of, but he lost his biggest fights, and hasn't beaten anyone he wasn't "supposed to" beat (except maybe Spinks in the rematch).
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Originally posted by BoxingArtist View PostZab is more accomplished and better than Gatti, or some of the others that got in. So, yes.
Zab's been more of a black sheep in the sport, plus he's lost, literally every turning point fight in his career, with the exception of Spinks.
He's never really had a classic fight to propel him into legend status with casual boxing fans, and his cheap shots against Floyd, and his KO moment with Tszyu will forever haunt him.
I absolutely don't think it's right for Gatti to make it over Zab, since Zab is the much better boxer, but it is what it is.
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Originally posted by Black Barty View PostWith today's low HOF standards, he might sneak in, but I would say no.
He was undisputed champ at WW and won a belt at jr. WW twice, but he lacks a real career defining win. His best wins are Witter, Corley, Spinks and Matthysse. His eight losses came against elite opposition (with the exception of Baldomir), and he was competitive in most of them.
Overall he has won five belts in two classes, has some decent wins, and his losses are nothing to be ashamed of, but he lost his biggest fights, and hasn't beaten anyone he wasn't "supposed to" beat (except maybe Spinks in the rematch).
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Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View PostLet's be real. Gatti got in for his 3 fights against Ward, and the fact that people loved him, and could identify with the hard nosed, Italian kid.
Zab's been more of a black sheep in the sport, plus he's lost, literally every turning point fight in his career, with the exception of Spinks.
He's never really had a classic fight to propel him into legend status with casual boxing fans, and his cheap shots against Floyd, and his KO moment with Tszyu will forever haunt him.
I absolutely don't think it's right for Gatti to make it over Zab, since Zab is the much better boxer, but it is what it is.
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