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    Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
    I think Mayweather could make a good showing at MW but that would be his limit. NO I don't expect him to be able to handle the power of a heavyweight. I don't even expect him to be able to truly handle Golovkin's power. However, his boxing skills would be able to overcome Golovkin's size advantage and punching power. I would still give Golovkin more than a good chance of winning based on size and power but his skills is way behind Mayweather's IMO.

    If Stevens was able to sustain an effective offense we might not even be having this conversation. The reason he wasn't tells me Golovkin's power, offense, and determination is way above average. On the other hand, it's not like he had a hard time landing against Stevens. He would have a hard time landing against Mayweather. When Stevens was able to land something he simply stepped back, reset, and continue his own offense. Again, Mayweather would land more and probably take less significant shots in return.
    I think Floyd was waiting for the middlweight division to cool off than go after a middleweight title. Guess it back fired on him. He has real opponets at middleweight. But i aggree Floyd will eventually find someone to fight at middleweight.

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      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      Do you think it was the 1 pound difference from his last fight that prevented Canelo from beating Mayweather better yet win more than 2 rounds, or his lack of being able to deal with the smarter, better fighter.

      Dude is 23 you are probably one of those fools who picked Canelo by ko and mad he got totally schooled
      thank you for explaining that .. 2 pounds lololol canelo could of come in to that fight at 200 pounds and it would be the same result . canelo was schooled it had nothing to do with the catchweight . canelo was simply out classed

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        Why does everyone keep talking about floyd fighting middle weights ,, he can barley make 154 how do you expect him to make 160 !! Hes a natural welterweight we walks around at 147 . !!

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          Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
          His boxing skills where able to handle Canelo who is big and strong. He dominated Canelo and made him look less than average. The problem is he got hit by Canelo. Not enough to make the fight close, but enough to say he took some shots. Those FEW baby shots that Canelo landed from GGG, will make it an EASY night for GGG. Mayweather cant go the whole fight without getting grazed. Lets say we took GGG's power away. Floyd would go the whole fight dominating and eat several shots throughout the fight. Not enough to make it close. But enough to say that Floyd got touched up. The problem is, if they fought, GGG will still have his power. More than twice the amount of Canelo. And if your feeling Canelo's punches, GGG will KILL that little man. And your talking about middleweight. Fool thats a MISMATCH for GGG. I thought we were talking about 54 LOL

          As far as Stevens and Mayweather; GGG doesnt have to land as cleanly on Floyd as he did on Stevens. Stevens is not as good as Floyd but Stevens is IN GGG'S weight class. GGG just has to land as much as Canelo and Ghost, and due to his size advantage, that would be enough to kill Floyd off. Its not about the skills its about the size difference, and Floyd not being a mw. And yes Stevens was able to land on GGG. But if Floyd landed on GGG who cares? Floyd is not a middleweight, he DEF wont be able to deter GGG. I could careless about GGG's lack of defense or speed, or any of that crap. Its all about the power, size advantage, and the fact that Floyd is not a mw!
          Let me just say this... Skill against skill with the size and power advantage to Golovkin, this is a winnable fight for Mayweather. Guerrero landed more quality shots on Mayweather than Canelo because the risk was less for Mayweather. I would assume against Golovkin, he would fight an ever more cautious fight than he did against Canelo and Guerrero. I would be shocked if this fight does happen, Mayweather would fight in the same way he did in his last 3 or 4 fights. I don't agree that Golovkin's power is double that of Canelo's but he is a harder puncher. I still have to re-watch the fight to see those body caving shots Canelo landed that everyone missed but you. TBH I don't see this fight getting made but if it did it would more than likely be at 154. However, like I said, I could see Mayweather testing the water at MW against a lesser opponent.
          Last edited by HarvardBlue; 11-08-2013, 07:02 PM.

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            Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
            Let me just say this... Skill against skill with the size and power advantage to Golovkin, this is a winnable fight for Mayweather. Guerrero landed more quality shots on Mayweather than Canelo because the risk was less for Mayweather. I would assume against Golovkin, he would fight an ever more cautious fight than he did against Canelo and Guerrero. I would be shocked if this fight does happen, Mayweather would fight in the same way he did in his last 3 or 4 fights. I don't agree that Golovkin's power is double that of Canelo's but he is a harder puncher. I still have to re-watch the fight to see those body caving shots Canelo landed that everyone missed but you. TBH I don't see this fight getting made but if it did it would more than likely be at 154. However, like I said, I could see Mayweather testing the water at MW against a lesser opponent.
            I personally dont think Ghost landed more quality shots on Floyd. But thats up for debate. My thing is; If GGG lands the HALF of the few shots on Floyd that Ghost and Canelo landed, it will be a Macklin-type stoppage due to GGG being far too big and strong for Floyd.

            I think at 154 its a pick em fight. But at 160, its a white wash for GGG. Absolutely no chance. And against Ghost Floyd played it as safe as he possibly could without doing a SRL type of safety first fight. Floyd ran around the ring and threw 3 slow right hands around. That version of Mayweather gets beaten by GGG. Unless he is scared to let his hands go, then GGG will win just by default from stalking a gun-shy fighter. And I dont know if Floyd would EVER play it any safer than he did against Ghost.

            Do you think Canelo can go to 160, hit Macklin in the body and make him have a seizure like that?

            Boy GGG dips his gloves in acid before each fight, and he gonna eat that azz alive!!!

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              Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              Golovkin is stiff, predictable, easy to hit. He has the amatuer pedigree and good power and size. Thats it

              Mayweather is too smart, and adapts to fast and would take all those advantages away not getting hit being slick, and elusive. Golovkiin is there to be hit with overhand rights, jabs, pull counters and straight rights.

              Outside of a punchers chance. He has no chance.
              Originally posted by boxingfeind View Post
              That`s something i`ve known for a while.Anybody with at-least half a brain knows that Golovkin style wise,does not bring anything Floyd hasn`t seen before.Plus Floyd has a good chin and quick recuperative abilities. Just let these fools live in their delusional world.If that fight ever happens and Floyd has not declined much,Floyd will beat GGG easily and the search for a new hope to beat Floyd will continue on.
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              Floyd beats him easily despite the size differential.
              GGG is way too slo0o0ow
              Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              If the fight happens at 160 I could see Mayweather move a lot more and just jabbing from the outside to a UD, at 154 I expect him to stand more and box GGG more on the front foot. Either way I don't see Mayweather losing to GGG if they ever fight.
              Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
              Speed beats Floyd and GGG doesn't have it. Easy fight for Mayweather, even easier than Canelo who is much faster than GGG. It'd look like GGG's fighting in slow motion.
              Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
              Floyd should make the fight quite seriously. He would dominate.
              Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
              golovkins style is too stiff (doesn't move his head) lacks the foot speed (slower then canelo) swings too wide & against someone like mayweather he's too patient.......

              not even in a million years would this style beat mayweather.......you would have to bank on the size advantage almost alone to make it interesting. otherwise its slim............
              Originally posted by Syf View Post
              I agree...

              Floyd is just too savvy to let a guy like GGG get to him. Its not necessarily because I favor boxers over pressure fighters all the time, its just that Floyd took one of the paths to the mountain and he sitting there waiting for whoever makes it up there.
              Have to respect the quality of Floyd's craft.

              Although I will say GGG is the best fight out there for Floyd, aside from Sergio.
              Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
              I honestly think Golovkin would be outboxed by Mayweather. Mayweather is not a Matthew Macklin or friggin Ishida.
              Originally posted by B.U.R.N.E.R View Post
              Mayweather 120-108.

              Easy work.

              Extremely easy work.
              Originally posted by rambov View Post
              Yes I love GGG too but I think its a pretty long stretch to say he beats Floyd.

              I actually think Floyd would take a fight like this. He loves come forward aggressive style fighters.
              Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
              One thing Mayweather is good at is nullifying his opponents best assets. You've seen it before, insert name here looks great in most or all their fights until he gets in the ring with Mayweather. That isn't a coincidence. Mayweather's skill is just at a different level. At the end of the day if Mayweather is able to stay upright, and they're 45 reasons to say he will; he should be able to beat Golovkin. Although it would be very dangerous for him every second of every round.
              Originally posted by rayb112 View Post
              Floyd could beat GGG with 1 arm tied behind his back...


              Why aren't Floyd fans this confident anymore?

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                Andrade would have the best chance. He's a tall, fast, rangy southpaw with a good jab and can box.

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                  "Easy to hit" by what? Floyd's pot shots? Seriously what could Floyd land that would keep GGG respectful? Nothing. It's bad match-up for Floyd. Plus the size. I wouldn't expect Floyd to have to fight a MW anyways (it's an unfair thing to demand). But since the thread starter opened this can of worms by saying PBF beats GGG, that's a different story. Just look how a much smaller and very crude fighter in Maidana gave Floyd all types of problems. GGG is bigger, stronger and much more technically sound.

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                    This fight will never happen...if it did GGG stops Floyd either by KO or TKO. He's simply too big and powerful for Floyd, but I don't really think anyone can call it a duck (unless he takes Cotto's middleweight title and starts to refer to himself as the best middleweight in the world)

                    I am curious if the thread starter and those that agreed with him (I realize this thread is over a year old) still agree with their opinions from back then.

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                      A guy who is so scared of an old Pacquaio isn't gonna fight a prime "Pacquaio XL"

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