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    #21
    Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
    ok........

    lamechenko gets fatigued after 3 rounds.........I've seen all of his fights without head gear & his most recent debut. lamechenko has decent footwork for the 1st 2 rounds & then he starts getting extremely sloppy,...sometimes he'll even get caught up of using his legs for a whole round and forgets about throwing one punch. he has no jab at all from what i can see.........i personally don't see anything special......and if you can't see the talent gab between rigo & lamechenko theres something seriously wrong. rigo throws a jab, pivots, throws a blazing left to the body. darts in & out like nobodies business.....can and has always been able to hold his work rate after 3 rounds. his twitch muscles are ridiculous. like i said, he looks like a little cyborg at times the way he pops you & goes back into position. example (see the 12 round of the donaire fight. watch the left that blinded donaire for the remaining of the fight) he hit donaire and went back into position so smoothly as if he was a robot..........

    rigo from what I see is actually ahead of his time & special (i don't see that with too many amatuer fighters. but rigo is)......lamenchko is more of a product that arum & hbo is desperately trying to build into a superstar. i don't see lamenchko as a special fighter.
    Chris Byrd (2 time Heavyweight Champion, mind you) strongly disagrees with you

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      #22
      It would be such a high level bout that my head might explode in anticipation. I wouldn't blink for that entire bout.

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        #23
        Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
        ok........

        lamechenko gets fatigued after 3 rounds.........I've seen all of his fights without head gear & his most recent debut. lamechenko has decent footwork for the 1st 2 rounds & then he starts getting extremely sloppy,...sometimes he'll even get caught up of using his legs for a whole round and forgets about throwing one punch. he has no jab at all from what i can see.........i personally don't see anything special......and if you can't see the talent gab between rigo & lamechenko theres something seriously wrong. rigo throws a jab, pivots, throws a blazing left to the body. darts in & out like nobodies business.....can and has always been able to hold his work rate after 3 rounds. his twitch muscles are ridiculous. like i said, he looks like a little cyborg at times the way he pops you & goes back into position. example (see the 12 round of the donaire fight. watch the left that blinded donaire for the remaining of the fight) he hit donaire and went back into position so smoothly as if he was a robot..........

        rigo from what I see is actually ahead of his time & special (i don't see that with too many amatuer fighters. but rigo is)......lamenchko is more of a product that arum & hbo is desperately trying to build into a superstar. i don't see lamenchko as a special fighter.
        Well if you can't see anything special, i can't help you, that's your opinion..... But if you think Lomachenko is a just a product of HBO and Arum then I think there's something seriously wrong.

        Not sure how a guy with a 396-1 amateur record and two gold medals can be a product of HBO/Arum (surely the hype is warranted?)

        But hey to each their own.



        Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
        Chris Byrd (2 time Heavyweight Champion, mind you) strongly disagrees with you

        ^ This


        Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
        lomachenko carried ramirez to the 4th round, it was pretty obvious at least to me

        he knew from round one that he could tag ramirez whenever he wanted to, he seemed to want to get some rounds in

        dude is legit as much as a 1-0 guy could be lol
        And yep, I agree with this

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          #24
          Byrd says he's even more impressed with him than he was going in and he was already impressed before that lol

          "Kid is awesome"

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            #25
            Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
            Byrd says he's even more impressed with him than he was going in and he was already impressed before that lol

            "Kid is awesome"
            Byrd's always been one of the former boxers who's opinion I've really respected. Love his Youtube show and he seems to know his boxing very well IMO

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              #26
              Originally posted by King- View Post
              Byrd's always been one of the former boxers who's opinion I've really respected. Love his Youtube show and he seems to know his boxing very well IMO
              me too

              he even says he doesnt believe in making predictions for fights, he just likes to break down the style matchups

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                #27
                Originally posted by King- View Post
                Well if you can't see anything special, i can't help you, that's your opinion..... But if you think Lomachenko is a just a product of HBO and Arum then I think there's something seriously wrong.

                Not sure how a guy with a 396-1 amateur record and two gold medals can be a product of HBO/Arum (surely the hype is warranted?)

                But hey to each their own.





                ^ This




                And yep, I agree with this
                when it comes to how i feel about a fighter I put my opinion first........ what ever chris byrd has to say thats his own opinion. i mean is this a joke.......you gotta be able to think on your own. i use to follow what the so called "experts" thought. but then i realized that they knew just as much as the next man who broke down & analyzed fights. (thats been my experience)


                you think that lamechenko carried remirez?..........i don't think so. i just think he gassed a little just like against BASHENOV and others.

                skip to 12:55 to watch the 4th & 5th..........gassed.

                look at how sloppy he looks after 3 rounds. footwork all over the place no defense. coming in predictable and fatigued.

                how can you not see the blatant talent gap between him & rigo........

                Last edited by Godsfly; 10-13-2013, 04:53 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pigsfly View Post
                  when it comes to how i feel about a fighter I put my opinion first........ what ever chris byrd has to say thats his own opinion. that right there is a complete joke to me.......you gotta be able to think for your own. i use to follow what so called "experts" thought & i realized that they knew just as much as the next man who broke down & analyzed fights. (thats been my experience)


                  you think that lamechenko carried remirez?..........i don't think so. i just think he gassed a little just like against BASHENOV and others.

                  skip to 12:55 to watch the 4th & 5th..........gassed.

                  look at how sloppy he looks after 3 rounds. footwork all over the place no defense. coming in predictable and fatigued.


                  I agree with that. I just quoted that because I posted that's how I feel as well and I agree with Byrd not becauase I'm saying he knows more then anybody because he was a boxer, etc

                  How was he gassed against Ramirez? I thought he looked good in the later rounds. I think he might of carried him because look at the first round for example he had him in a lot of pain after the bodyshot KD (Ramirez himself said he's never been that hurt) and I believe if Lomachenko really wanted to he would of smelled blood and pounced on him and finished it. obviously he has a killer instinct and judging by how he kind of backed off and just looked relaxed and content to keep on going, I think he wanted to get some rounds in. IMO
                  Last edited by King_; 10-13-2013, 04:54 PM.

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